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Can somebody here do me a huge favor and touch the NB heatsink in their 990FXA-UD3 after about an hour of runtime and tell me if it's uncomfortably hot? I just RMA'd my 990FXA-UD3 and was told no issues. I'm having continued crashing and I'm not sure if it's my GPU or CPU or my mobo. I RMA'd my GPU, too but was told Gigabyte lost it and just randomly got a package with it in it with no work done to it. I don't know if it's normal, but my other two heatsinks are fine. My NB heatsink is REALLY hot (you can't leave your hand on it for more than a couple of seconds). Gigabyte said no problems were found with it....I wonder if they ran it for long enough.
 
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Update:

That's a negative on the AHCI ROM curing the Win8 AMD AHCI Driver crashing.... Stick with the MS Standard SATA driver.

Although everything else looks fine... Just like F9

LOL you got me all excited with your last post.. kept reading and now I am not sure if I am going to update it or wait for the next (non beta) BIOS release.

As mentioned before, my RAID 0 drivers work just fine. Its the Marvel drivers I have problems with. When I have the Marvel Drivers installed, and drives attached to the eSATA ports, I get BSODs. I have the BSOD info (shows drivers it failed on and all) if anyone cares and thinks it can help solve this problem. (hopping Gigabyte BIOS and Marvel Driver coders are reading this:D)
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SSD's in my sig. I'm now running my OS from the Vertex 4 as it has slightly faster random reads than my Corsair Perf Pro. But both do VERY well. A lot of the time raid will decrease random reads and writes do to controller, driver and software overhead. This can lead to decreased scoring. Raid 0 will only increase sequential speeds... (Large file transfer speeds). But most of the time will decrease small file performance that everyone uses 85% of the time.

As for your ram... CRANK IT UP! You are loosing out on a ton of performance with your ram idling at 1333 on a 8350! FX processors are made with 1866 memory in mind, thats a default speed for your processor. However most AMD motherboard don't correctly set memory speeds in the BIOS. I always suggest manually setting memory speed, voltage and timing to ensure proper memory operation.

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I just read/found a AMD article saying that if you fill all 4 slots with RAM, the chips only support RAM running at 1600 (with out OC). Well I tried and was able to get the RAM to run at 1600 first try. I am up to try any realistic ideas on getting the RAM to work on 1866 though. But in the end, when ever I buy into water, this will give me some room to OC, and not have to worry about my RAM being a bad batch. thumb.gif
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I just read/found a AMD article saying that if you fill all 4 slots with RAM, the chips only support RAM running at 1600 (with out OC). Well I tried and was able to get the RAM to run at 1600 first try. I am up to try any realistic ideas on getting the RAM to work on 1866 though. But in the end, when ever I buy into water, this will give me some room to OC, and not have to worry about my RAM being a bad batch. thumb.gif

That is correct sir and I must have missed the part about your using 4 sticks of ram...

You might be able to OC over 1600, but 1866 might be out of reach with 4 sticks. Work on tightening your timings if your interested in getting all the performance you can.
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Mystery Solved

So this was the story in a nutshell (I include it here so maybe can help someone), i built this system :

Mainboard : GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3
Memory: 1 x PNY XLR8 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model MD8192KD3-1600-X9
CPU: AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 3.6GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8150FRGUBOX
PowerSupply:RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS 730W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular
Graphics: Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT

and the CPU and TMPIN2 was ultra high (90C+ and 78C+)

I changed the thermal paste to artic silver 5 with little or NO improvement
I switched memory modules and used only one without improvement (Gigabyte suggestion)
I use the "fail safe" settings in the bios with little improvement on the time to critical heat, but still overheating
I use the "Underclocked" manually the settings in the bios with little improvement on the time to critical heat, but still overheating
I changed the stock heatsink from the FX-8150 to a massive and beautiful COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, and now the problem is solved, the temperatures (44C and 55C) after 10 minutes of Prime95:cheers:

This is something similar than what happened to ultracarpet
http://www.overclock.net/t/1023100/official-gigabyte-ga-990fxa-series-owners-thread-club/4200#post_19127174

so my conclusions and recommendations

1) the stock heatsink of the AMD FX-8150 is JUNK , useless, will burn your expensive CPU and mainboard . Get a good heatsink as the COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus ($30 at newegg) or if you want a water one for $100+
The stock heatsink is great if you are only using this super processor to browse the internet, but for gaming, video editing or anything that demmands a decent use of the CPU, doesnt work , and don't even consider overclocking
Its like selling a Ferrari that runs perfect up to 30mph, and if you drive it at 50+ mph it will overheat and explode, come on AMD guys! , provide a decent heatsink please (just $30)

2) the thermal paste of the GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 seems OK (although was kind of dry), i didn't notice any big improvement with the Artic Silver 5, but changing it can help (try the heatsink first)

3) about TMPIN2, Gigabyte said is the Northbridge, some people think different, i dont know, BUT i tell you for sure, once the CPU issue was solved with the COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus , the TMPIN2 was also down, so it may be physically close to the CPU (same as ultracarpet)

4) Thanks to all the people in the forum that shared ideas and suggestions , you guys are great cheers.gif

post #4256 of 12377
heard alot about the stock heatsinks being junk so when I did my sons I put the seidon 120 on right off. Havent ran prime yet on it but temps are very cool:thumb:
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Mystery Solved

So this was the story in a nutshell (I include it here so maybe can help someone), i built this system :

Mainboard : GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3
Memory: 1 x PNY XLR8 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model MD8192KD3-1600-X9
CPU: AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 3.6GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8150FRGUBOX
PowerSupply:RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS 730W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular
Graphics: Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT

and the CPU and TMPIN2 was ultra high (90C+ and 78C+)

I changed the thermal paste to artic silver 5 with little or NO improvement
I switched memory modules and used only one without improvement (Gigabyte suggestion)
I use the "fail safe" settings in the bios with little improvement on the time to critical heat, but still overheating
I use the "Underclocked" manually the settings in the bios with little improvement on the time to critical heat, but still overheating
I changed the stock heatsink from the FX-8150 to a massive and beautiful COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, and now the problem is solved, the temperatures (44C and 55C) after 10 minutes of Prime95:cheers:

This is something similar than what happened to ultracarpet
http://www.overclock.net/t/1023100/official-gigabyte-ga-990fxa-series-owners-thread-club/4200#post_19127174

so my conclusions and recommendations

1) the stock heatsink of the AMD FX-8150 is JUNK , useless, will burn your expensive CPU and mainboard . Get a good heatsink as the COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus ($30 at newegg) or if you want a water one for $100+
The stock heatsink is great if you are only using this super processor to browse the internet, but for gaming, video editing or anything that demmands a decent use of the CPU, doesnt work , and don't even consider overclocking
Its like selling a Ferrari that runs perfect up to 30mph, and if you drive it at 50+ mph it will overheat and explode, come on AMD guys! , provide a decent heatsink please (just $30)

2) the thermal paste of the GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 seems OK (although was kind of dry), i didn't notice any big improvement with the Artic Silver 5, but changing it can help (try the heatsink first)

3) about TMPIN2, Gigabyte said is the Northbridge, some people think different, i dont know, BUT i tell you for sure, once the CPU issue was solved with the COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus , the TMPIN2 was also down, so it may be physically close to the CPU (same as ultracarpet)

4) Thanks to all the people in the forum that shared ideas and suggestions , you guys are great cheers.gif



Heat soak. would be what was causing issue's. Sheple can think what ever they want about TMPIN02, but it is the North Bdrige(Not CPU-NB).

Avoid AS5. Has a 200 hour cure time.
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Heat soak. would be what was causing issue's. Sheple can think what ever they want about TMPIN02, but it is the North Bdrige(Not CPU-NB).

Avoid AS5. Has a 200 hour cure time.

...and is conductive in a wrong way wink.gif.

but I agree about what "sheple" think here... heat soaking and the simple fact that the stock heatsink dumps heat right onto to NB heatsink.


It's all good, "Sheple" jyst be trippin'. lol

(all in good fun, im a little punchy this morning)
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...and is conductive in a wrong way wink.gif.

but I agree about what "sheple" think here... heat soaking and the simple fact that the stock heatsink dumps heat right onto to NB heatsink.


It's all good, "Sheple" jyst be trippin'. lol

(all in good fun, im a little punchy this morning)

lulz, forgot about the conductive aspect of AS5. Thank you. I also feel "punchy" this morning. I blame the weather.

I personally avoid "stock style" cooler's, As you pointed out they put the stock style cooler's as they dump heat on the bit's and bob's surrounding the CPU socket.(RAM, Northbridge, MOSFET's, ect).

Tower style cooler's are far superior smile.gif I still use a CM 212+ on my back up rig. Allow's my UD3/955BE combo to hold 4.0Ghz stable 24/7 year round...even with ambiant temps in the 90f area.
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the stock CPU heatsink is fine for stock speed clocks.

The north bridge can run 80c no problem. It will not cause your computer to crash, so stop thinking it will. If your computer crashes it is for some other reason, other than north bridge temp. Gigabyte has already told everyone under the sun, that it is fine just read the posts here.

Secondly if you are SO concerned with the heat in the VRM / North bridge area Add a fan. No need to replace the CPU cooler, just buy a fan. I have done this, but I am overclocking and I'm water cooled, so No Cpu fan to blow air in the area. For what it is worth my North Bridge Does not go over 53c.

Another thing you can do is purchase bolts/nuts/ nylon washers, and remove the VRM heatsinks and the North bridge Heatsinks. Replace the thermal pad on the VRMs with a higher quality one.
Such as this
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16940/thr-171/Fujipoly_Extreme_Thermal_Pad_-_Mosfet_Block_-_100_x_15_x_10_-_Thermal_Conductivity_110_WmK.html?tl=g8c487s1290

as for the North Bridge
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16883/thr-168/Fujipoly_Extreme_System_Builder_Thermal_Pad_-_60_x_50_x_10_-_Thermal_Conductivity_110_WmK.html?tl=g8c487s1290

Note Yes I use a thermal pad on my North bridge, but i also have nuts and bolts securing the heatsink VERY snugly to the board. I am using a pad because the core of the north bridge is tiny and easy to damage with excessive pressure. The Thermal pad prevents damage to the north bridge core and promotes better cooling due to making contact with the surrounding area. Some folks will use thermal paste, which works, just doesn't offer any sort of protection to the north bridge core, ESP with using nuts and bolts instead of the stock plastic push pins.



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