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I have the same MB and had the same processor "sunday".
I had it over clocked by multiplier only at X18 or 3.6ghz.
I had all power saving features turned off. It was stable at that speed.
Nothing else was adjusted or tweaked.

That's a place to start and I hope it's helpful.
Plenty of smart folks here, who can take you further.
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on3 small question:

here is my setup-

phenom 2 955
amd ram 8gb ( my board is a 990fx-ud3)


I can raise the base clock (200mhz) easily but the cpu multiplier can't be rose beyond x16. Do I miss something, I'm a bit new to overclock, I've been easy reaching 220 mhz base clock at stock voltage. But I wonder...

As for cpu cooling, I am on air, with a xygmatek htd-s212 and at stock setting, It's only a few degrees above ambient, on the CPU. less than 10 deg. Do I necessarily need to remove some power saving features to just tune it to let's say 3-400 mhz faster cpu clock?

To get a 400mhz increase out of a 955, you will need to increase the voltage.

Your cooling seems to be more than adequate to deal with the increased heat load that will be produced.

As far as the power saving features... No you do not have to disable them (I personally refuse to run without). However, many here will suggest you disable them while finding the comfortable processor's OC. Afterward re-enabling the power saving features (C1E, CnQ, etc...) allowing for a cool running and energy efficient OC'ed machine.


Many guides here on OCN for AMD Overclocking. Take a look around, stay awhile, and welcome!

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on3 small question:

here is my setup-

phenom 2 955
amd ram 8gb ( my board is a 990fx-ud3)


I can raise the base clock (200mhz) easily but the cpu multiplier can't be rose beyond x16. Do I miss something, I'm a bit new to overclock, I've been easy reaching 220 mhz base clock at stock voltage. But I wonder...

As for cpu cooling, I am on air, with a xygmatek htd-s212 and at stock setting, It's only a few degrees above ambient, on the cpu. less than 10 deg. Do I necessarily need to remove some power saving features to just tune it to let's say 3-400 mhz faster cpu clock?

If this is a new build I would suggest manually setting everything in the BIOS to STOCK settings and then run some test's( Custom Prime95 Blend using most of availble memory, IBT, Memtest86 and furmark @ max). I would even go as far as running IBT and Furmark at the same time. This will put CPU, RAM and GPU on full load. This will let you know if anything is faulty or not. I can't stand trying to trouble shoot an OC with out knowing if all hardware is 100% working.

Then you can start overclocking. On my 955BE/UD3 system I set the CPU Vcore @ 1.50v and the CPU-NB @ 1.35v and started bumping the CPU multi and the CPU-NB freq until I started getting too high of temps for overclocking(mid 50's on C scale), Then I would back the Voltage's down some and try to bump the freq's again. 1.50v on the CPU-VCore is safe for some testing with your cooling, but I wouldn't go much higher, 1.55v is considered the max safe voltage with out extreme cooling. I ended up with 4.0Ghz @1.440v(after Vdroop. 1.450 in BIOS) and 2800Mhz on the CPU-NB with 1.30v. I left all the power saving feature's on, but do suggest leaving Hibernation/sleep mode out of overclocking.

Phenom II's are silly easy to OC.... Just add voltage lulz.
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Hi all. smile.gif
I've just got myself an FX-8350 CPU, and wondered if anyone here with the GA-990FXA had any tips for tweaks?
I'll share anything I learn with you all too once I start playing.
Have an awesome weekend.
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the fx windows fixes would be nice to have, they wont impact your performance that much, but it will work.
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It appears way more people have ud3 then 5/7 boards. Other then price is there any reason why people would choose 3 boards?
I see random posts/comments where some people say if you oc not to buy a 3 board and 2 days later I see someone posting 4.8/5ghz oc.
I had a ud3 board for almost 3 months. Bought it cheap as an open box and after I put in my 8350 had crazy problems with all apps giving me different temp readings. 5 different apps all open giving me different numbers. And bios not matching any... Few other odd things too that I can't remember the details right now...
I bought the extra warranty as it was an open box and returned it and bought an open box ud5. No problems with reading temps until I installed win 8... Different subject I am working on resolving...
But so far I do feel better having my ud5 board, but I really can't explain why that is.
Haven't oced anything yet....

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Apps were displaying from 20c to 120c on my cpu under load...
Edited by EyeCU247 - 2/1/13 at 6:29pm
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It appears way more people have ud3 then 5/7 boards. Other then price is there any reason why people would choose 3 boards?
I see random posts/comments where some people say if you oc not to buy a 3 board and 2 days later I see someone posting 4.8/5ghz oc.
I had a ud3 board for almost 3 months. Bought it cheap as an open box and after I put in my 8350 had crazy problems with all apps giving me different temp readings. 5 different apps all open giving me different numbers. And bios not matching any... Few other odd things too that I can't remember the details right now...
I bought the extra warranty as it was an open box and returned it and bought an open box ud5. No problems with reading temps until I installed win 8... Different subject I am working on resolving...
But so far I do feel better having my ud5 board, but I really can't explain why that is.
Haven't oced anything yet....

Edit
Apps were displaying from 20c to 120c on my cpu under load...


To be honest the options that set the UD5 and 7 apart from the UD3 are a complete waste of money to most people. There are a few that actually use all the spiffy options they offer but its a small crowd. All 3 of the boards do have a problem with reading temps. Its not just the UD3.

Each program will read a different temp. You have to use common sense to figure out what program is reading true. obviously there is no way your PC was at 120c. My UD3 would read max temps as high as 252c. Impossible temps. Finally I found OpenHardware Monitor. The temps it shows for me are right. AMD overdrive was the worst one. At idle it was reading up to 200+c for CPU temp.
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To be honest the options that set the UD5 and 7 apart from the UD3 are a complete waste of money to most people. There are a few that actually use all the spiffy options they offer but its a small crowd. All 3 of the boards do have a problem with reading temps. Its not just the UD3.

Each program will read a different temp. You have to use common sense to figure out what program is reading true. obviously there is no way your PC was at 120c. My UD3 would read max temps as high as 252c. Impossible temps. Finally I found OpenHardware Monitor. The temps it shows for me are right. AMD overdrive was the worst one. At idle it was reading up to 200+c for CPU temp.

What are these special features? Anything better for oc?
The biggest one that I know of is being able to run 3 pcie gfx cards on the ud5 board, and why I bought the ud3 as I don't plan on doing this. I bought the ud5 as they were out of 3s at the time. I thought all bios options features were the same... Ud5 has a better heat sink and pipe on the north bridge etc. Also more sata ports... I use all of them so I do like that...
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I haven't had any trouble with monitoring temps.

Like Khaotic said, Open Hardware Monitor works best.

tmpin 0- System temp
tmpin-1- Cpu Socket temp (not core temp)
tmpin-2-Northbridge (per gigabyte) I question this reading, because from my results it scales with cpu vcore, which would point to VRM temp instead rather than the north bridge.

Core temps listed via hardware monitor are accurate under load. Not so much if your using cool and quiet, will commonly report number below ambient, again this is under idle conditions. Seems like once your actual core temp is around 40c it reports fine.


as far the the motherboard selection goes the UD3 vs the UD5/UD7. The UD3 offers plenty of features support crossfire, has esata, usb 3.0, plenty of drive options. Only real reason to get the ud5 or ud7 over the ud3 is if you plan for Trifire/quadfire. Their feature sets are nearly identical otherwise. Considering we are talking about AMD systems here most folks go Amd for budget reasons, so the higher priced boards are not as common.

When I purchased my Ud3 (about a month Bulldozer was released) I researched boards, and narrowed my options down to the Crosshair V, or one of the Gigabyte boards. I went with the UD3, because it supported all the features i wanted and was good bit cheaper than the other boards. Gigabyte really dropped the ball on their Amd motherboards this go around, it took months before I considered them to be past the beta stages. Bios was a major issue with these models out of the gate, and was really complected by releasing new revisions of the board which supported LLC. Left a lot of users with a sour taste in their mouth. Bios has come a long way since then, and the new revision boards do pretty well, but don't let that fool you into thinking they are perfect. After using my UD3 for Two years, if you looking for a AMD motherboard there is only two solutions. Crosshair V Formula Z, or the Sabertooth, Both are from ASUS. Quite simply, the UD3 rev 1.0 board was the most problematic board i've come across since like 2001. I've used well over 100 boards since then if that's telling you something. Granted if my experience had started 6 months ago, it would have been a pretty solid board. Still 1.5 years of ownership before you consider the product to be past beta is a long time to shaft people.
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I haven't had any trouble with monitoring temps.

Like Khaotic said, Open Hardware Monitor works best.

tmpin 0- System temp
tmpin-1- Cpu Socket temp (not core temp)
tmpin-2-Northbridge (per gigabyte) I question this reading, because from my results it scales with cpu vcore, which would point to VRM temp instead rather than the north bridge.

Core temps listed via hardware monitor are accurate under load. Not so much if your using cool and quiet, will commonly report number below ambient, again this is under idle conditions. Seems like once your actual core temp is around 40c it reports fine.


as far the the motherboard selection goes the UD3 vs the UD5/UD7. The UD3 offers plenty of features support crossfire, has esata, usb 3.0, plenty of drive options. Only real reason to get the ud5 or ud7 over the ud3 is if you plan for Trifire/quadfire. Their feature sets are nearly identical otherwise. Considering we are talking about AMD systems here most folks go Amd for budget reasons, so the higher priced boards are not as common.

When I purchased my Ud3 (about a month Bulldozer was released) I researched boards, and narrowed my options down to the Crosshair V, or one of the Gigabyte boards. I went with the UD3, because it supported all the features i wanted and was good bit cheaper than the other boards. Gigabyte really dropped the ball on their Amd motherboards this go around, it took months before I considered them to be past the beta stages. Bios was a major issue with these models out of the gate, and was really complected by releasing new revisions of the board which supported LLC. Left a lot of users with a sour taste in their mouth. Bios has come a long way since then, and the new revision boards do pretty well, but don't let that fool you into thinking they are perfect. After using my UD3 for Two years, if you looking for a AMD motherboard there is only two solutions. Crosshair V Formula Z, or the Sabertooth, Both are from ASUS. Quite simply, the UD3 rev 1.0 board was the most problematic board i've come across since like 2001. I've used well over 100 boards since then if that's telling you something. Granted if my experience had started 6 months ago, it would have been a pretty solid board. Still 1.5 years of ownership before you consider the product to be past beta is a long time to shaft people.

I will have to download that temp tool. There was another concern I had with the ud3 board that showed up after I installed the 8350 and I cannot remember what that was. I had a 4 core phenom 2 before and it was flawless.
I used to hack bios updates (10+ years ago) and liked the dual bios of gigabyte boards... Bought one Asus board in 2006 (my last build lasted me 6.5 years before I replaced it) and even though it was a good board I missed some features I had with gigabyte. Now I feel like I miss the features I see on the crosshair board I skipped out on to get back to gigabyte. Adding to what you said, I think gigabyte is not as good as they were with their high end boards years ago. I do feel cheated but at the same time I would not trade up and I did have the chance when I returned the ud3. I think it may have something to do with the color scheme of my system... :-) it was really planned but worked out perfect. I really like having dual bios BUT I do not like the current implementation of it. Back in the day I could choose what bios to boot off of. Now the system chooses.
I think once I start to OC I will see first had if I picked the right board or not.

EDIT
Updates...

I really do like OHM
I have 3 screens and while playing games was keeping AMD OD and MSI Afterburner open on one screen at all times.
The big thing I still do see is when I am not doing anything, 4 cores are stuck in turbo mode and cpu volts are at 1.408v. At idle when in Win 7 all cores would run at 1400mhz and one or two cores when pop up to 4ghz with all at very little usage. It really does look like all the cores are either at 1400mhz or 4200mhz, without any steps in between. It's like the power saving features are not working properly.
Well that's what it does on idle. Will post full load details later after I play with it for a bit.
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