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@khaotic,
Can you post a screenshot just like mine? I'd like to know if the cpu temp given by the 'supported' software is pointing to tmpin 2 or 3 smile.gif
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Basicly it all boils' down to people coming in here with no actual clue as to what they are doing *****ing pissing and moaning about how ****ty the board is. Fine, but they are doing nothing at all but *****ing. ZERO problem solving take's place. only *****ing and useless post's.

My board was one of the first one's on OCN to show a ****ed up temp reading. Two TMPIN's would read up to 250c at idle on my UD3-955. when confronted with the problem I solved it in a proper manner and posted the info here.

No, you don't have to prove your problem's to me but we owe it to this website and club to only post useful data pertaining to this board. Not simply 'ITZ BORKENZ!! OMGZZ@@#!@$QETGLHADSOjc63"


The only way we will be able to prove what the sensor's are picking up is to machine out a small space in the heatsink for placing or a probe.

Lastly, Feeling the heatsink to get an idea of the temp of a chip under it is so bass ackward's it's not even funny. That would defeat the whole idea of the heat sink. Point and case: My i5 2500k peak's at almost 70c core temps on full load. My cooler hardly hit's 45-50c(VIA IR thermometer). That's a 20c difference between the CORE TEMP and the HEAT SINK. There is closer to a 30c temp difference between what the heatsink read's and what the CPU socket read's.
So using your finger's to diagnose the problem is hardly enough to prove anything to anyone in a technical manner.

Yea, I'll post a TMPIN of my UD3 but its in a state of being rebuilt and water cooled so the clock speeds and temps will not be reflective of their full time OC, its at stock for the time being.
But I'm not going to waste time with a bunch of temp programs that won't read proper on my board. OpenHardwareMonitor is the only one that won't fudge the reading's.

I'll edit this post in a few min with the screen shot.
Edited by KhaoticKomputing - 3/21/13 at 10:43am
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Basicly it all boils' down to people coming in here with no actual clue as to what they are doing *****ing pissing and moaning about how ****ty the board is. Fine, but they are doing nothing at all but *****ing. ZERO problem solving take's place. only *****ing and useless post's.

My board was one of the first one's on OCN to show a ****ed up temp reading. Two TMPIN's would read up to 250c at idle on my UD3-955. when confronted with the problem I solved it in a proper manner and posted the info here.

No, you don't have to prove your problem's to me but we owe it to this website and club to only post useful data pertaining to this board. Not simply 'ITZ BORKENZ!! OMGZZ@@#!@$QETGLHADSOjc63"


The only way we will be able to prove what the sensor's are picking up is to machine out a small space in the heatsink for placing or a probe.

Lastly, Feeling the heatsink to get an idea of the temp of a chip under it is so bass ackward's it's not even funny. That would defeat the whole idea of the heat sink. Point and case: My i5 2500k peak's at almost 70c core temps on full load. My cooler hardly hit's 45-50c(VIA IR thermometer). That's a 20c difference between the CORE TEMP and the HEAT SINK. There is closer to a 30c temp difference between what the heatsink read's and what the CPU socket read's.
So using your finger's to diagnose the problem is hardly enough to prove anything to anyone in a technical manner.

Honestly there isn't a reason to get worked up about this, and quite frankly, khaotic has looked into this extensively.

The one thing I'm beginning to see here with the stress testing I'm doing is the NB receiving more heat. Not generating heat, receiving. When tempin2 hits it's high, tempin 3 will begin to climb. Mind you I don't have active cooling on my NB heatsink because I replaced the stock stuff with my own TIM and noticed a good enough temp to not worry about it.

Anyway, the Tempin3 will eventually soar past tempin2 and max around 70c, which is about right for the NB. But up until it passes the socket temp it stays there for quite a while and I think this is simply do to socket heat transference. (I mean after all Its sitting right next to it).

Lets not come into this thread to bash one another... this is OCN, state what you've found... and lets figure it out. We can always rehash the hash rolleyes.gif
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Honestly there isn't a reason to get worked up about this, and quite frankly, khaotic has looked into this extensively.

The one thing I'm beginning to see here with the stress testing I'm doing is the NB receiving more heat. Not generating heat, receiving. When tempin2 hits it's high, tempin 3 will begin to climb. Mind you I don't have active cooling on my NB heatsink because I replaced the stock stuff with my own TIM and noticed a good enough temp to not worry about it.

Anyway, the Tempin3 will eventually soar past tempin2 and max around 70c, which is about right for the NB. But up until it passes the socket temp it stays there for quite a while and I think this is simply do to socket heat transference. (I mean after all Its sitting right next to it).

Lets not come into this thread to bash one another... this is OCN, state what you've found... and lets figure it out. We can always rehash the hash rolleyes.gif

From what you discribed it would seem that the sensor is actually picking up the NB temp. I'm thinking that maybe when the FX chips go into Idle state they require less form the NB, allowing it to effectively "Idle".

It would only make sense that as the CPU work load increase's that the NB work load would increase, thus raising temps. The temps seem to raise in conjunction of each other UNTIL the CPU hits its thermal limit and the NB keeps climbing.

So from your account, the sensor is reading the NB perfecly fine, but the use of a FX CPU botch's the idle reading's.







Here us an image of my UD3 I had my wife send me(sorry not at home today). The PC is at idle and at stock clock's and voltage's at this time. Later when I get home I can run some stress testing to show peak temps. If you want to see the overclocked temps your going to have to wait until after the Water Loop is installed. At idle and light use there is a constant 7-8C difference between my CPU core temps and the NB temps.


Lastly because this is a temp issue its hard for many people to come together and figure this one out. None of us have the same two machines, overlcock's, Case's or airflow pastern's.

We need 2 or 3 member's willing to use their rig's as test rig's to figure it out, otherwise there is zero consistency in this.
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Discussing with u Kaotic is just pointless and i wont waste my time any more.
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Discussing with u Kaotic is just pointless and i wont waste my time any more.

Another fine example of why I get frustrated. Use the squelch if you don't like the information I provide on this site.



Here is another snip from the wife. She was playing lord of the ring's online for a little bit. Its not full load but it is under a decent load for an extended period of time. She said its about 65f(or 18-19c) in the computer room.

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I'm no forum moderator but please for the sake of OCN, can we keep the posts to constructive/relative information. It'd be much appreciated smile.gif

We need a cleanup isle (page) 96 tongue.gif
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I am standing behind your test methods and results Khaotic. I can see your frustrations (to me and other users), and i really appriciate it that you are willing to help.
and itomic... Khaotic still being reasonable, why aren't you?

Khaotic, the reason why i want to see it in those programs (which i also find worthless) is maybe because the sensor names might have changed somehow. it did with my board (IF I can recall correctly).

And as far as i can see with your screens, your tmpin3 doesn't fly all over the place as mine or others with a FX chip. Maybe Madgoat is right about that one (the heat radiation), because the tdp of a FX chip is insanly high and as you overclock or stress it, it will just become more.

I am willing to use my system as a testrig. I am also watercooled (cpu only with a 280mm rad, 60mm thick), got 2 top outtake fans (140mm bitfenix spectre), and no intake (which can be mounted). i can change my fans to 120mm ones. my case is a corsair 400r.

I am willing to help to get this solved for once and for all. on a friendly way smile.gif

Or maybe we just need to overclock till its going to throttle but i am not willing to do that. if it is needed, I will.

Maybe i'm not the most active user on OCN, but i am a seasoned hardware enthousiast in The Netherlands (Tweakers.net) wink.gif
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Discussing with u Kaotic is just pointless and i wont waste my time any more.

Another fine example of why I get frustrated. Use the squelch if you don't like the information I provide on this site.



Here is another snip from the wife. She was playing lord of the ring's online for a little bit. Its not full load but it is under a decent load for an extended period of time. She said its about 65f(or 18-19c) in the computer room.

I may have have missed something in the umm...debate, but I would like to know what TPNIN2 is as well so I will throw mine in the mix.


My TMPIN2 is linked 12c higher to the Core temp and moves with it at the same rate. It matches exactly in AMD OD what is referred to as the 'CPU temp' rather than the core temp reading that every other temp monitor utility reads it also matches the 'CPU package ' temp in OHM readout.As I understand this then, This is the difference between the sensor on the core and the sensor on the inside of the IHS. I have however read conflicting info on sensor location as well.
I am curious if this varies by MB manufacturer. Anyone else here see the same temperature characteristics?
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[quote name="Fordox" url="/t/1023100/official-gigabyte-ga-990fxa-series-owners-thread-club/4780#post_19570687"]I am standing behind your test methods and results Khaotic. I can see your frustrations (to me and other users), and i really appriciate it that you are willing to help.
and itomic... Khaotic still being reasonable, why aren't you?

Method, what method r u talking about ?? I experienced same thing as many others but only Kaotic has different information and u belive his "method" is right based on what ?? And he has Phenom and rest of us have FX chips. Thats not the same !! I now have new UD-5 REV 3.0 and temps readings r different then they was on my UD-3. So Gigabyte has changed something.
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