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Yes this is a Thermalright HR-09 type 2

Thanks, that's good to know. Maybe it will do an even better job than the enzotech and get some people to stop throttling.
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Ozzy, I definitely know what you are considering throttling, that post was more for another person, sorry for confusion.

As for TMPIN2 being northbridge, I am going off of the following...



1. In almost every monitoring program, my TMPIN2 tracks 10-12C hotter than package temp under load.

2. My northbridge heatsink is physically warmer than all other heatsinks in my system. I noticed that on the first day. It was hard to keep a finger there for more than 5 seconds. That sparked my original interest in finding out why, and prompted me to put a fan over it before I even started reading about it.

3. My first ever google search on the subject yielded this result from a Gigabyte "Gold Helper" on the Gigabyte forums:

http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?topic=7075.0
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Originally Posted by absic 
Hi there,

TMPIN0 = Sytem (Motherboard) Temp
TMPIN1 = CPU Temp
TMPIN2 = Northbridge Temp

4. This thread that I found here on OCN led me to believe that pretty much all 990FX northbridges's run pretty hot.

But, now that I have started a more in depth search for truth on this subject, I am no wiser now than when I started. Searching here on OCN and across the internet, there is NO conclusive and consistent evidence as to what sensors are reading exactly what temps. Especially when apparently 2 identical boards read such drastically different temps from the onboard sensors. I see this repeated over and over all across the internet. Some of the boards reporting 0C as well! The onboard sensors should not be affected by the processor installed, but apparently that is the case (but only in some cases), or a bug with the board.

So, thank you for forcing me to take a harder look at this. For now, I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut and stop handing out advice on a board that MANY people do not fully understand, not even Gigabyte themselves apparently, which is sad.

This is frustrating.

And I am indeed running an FX-8350, just for clarification.
Edited by Baskt_Case - 5/16/13 at 7:09pm
    
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Does this mobo really include a copy of diablo III
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Ozzy, I definitely know what you are considering throttling, that post was more for another person, sorry for confusion.

As for TMPIN2 being northbridge, I am going off of the following...



1. In almost every monitoring program, my TMPIN2 tracks 10-12C hotter than package temp under load.

2. My northbridge heatsink is physically warmer than all other heatsinks in my system. I noticed that on the first day. It was hard to keep a finger there for more than 5 seconds. That sparked my original interest in finding out why, and prompted me to put a fan over it before I even started reading about it.

3. My first ever google search on the subject yielded this result from a Gigabyte "Gold Helper" on the Gigabyte forums:

http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?topic=7075.0
4. This thread that I found here on OCN led me to believe that pretty much all 990FX northbridges's run pretty hot.

But, now that I have started a more in depth search for truth on this subject, I am no wiser now than when I started. Searching here on OCN and across the internet, there is NO conclusive and consistent evidence as to what sensors are reading exactly what temps. Especially when apparently 2 identical boards read such drastically different temps from the onboard sensors. I see this repeated over and over all across the internet. Some of the boards reporting 0C as well! The onboard sensors should not be affected by the processor installed, but apparently that is the case (but only in some cases), or a bug with the board.

So, thank you for forcing me to take a harder look at this. For now, I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut and stop handing out advice on a board that MANY people do not fully understand, not even Gigabyte themselves apparently, which is sad.

This is frustrating.

And I am indeed running an FX-8350, just for clarification.

Interesting. Yours exhibits way different readings than mine does. I'm not saying your wrong, but my TMPIN2 always matches cpu package temps and tmpin1 is always a few degrees lower. This board is just crap lol. I blame it on the board.



Edited by OzzyRuleZ - 5/16/13 at 10:22pm
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Maybe its the difference in CPU cooling. Your single rad vs. my double.

However, now I'm on to chasing other bugs. My system crashed while Folding so I backed off my RAM, going back to stock 1866 and tried Prime, which also failed after about an hour.

So now I'm unstable at 4.6GHz (1.45v), 2.2 NB, 1866 RAM. No throttling though.

Starting to wish I'd bought an Asus. The last one I had was just a mid-range board and was rock solid stable. Easy to OC and even easier to diagnose and fix instability.
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Alright, so I tried a few things.

First I tried no extra fans at all.

Then I tried a 70mm with a shroud directly over the VRM's.

Then I used both a 70mm over the VRM's and an 80mm over the Northbridge.

Lastly, I bolted an 80mm to the backside mount in my case that blows directly onto the socket/VRM area.

It was kinda stupid, but I did all of this while the PC was powered on and running Prime95 and HWMonitor. I wanted to get this thing good and hot and see what would happen when various cooling was added or taken away.

You know what happened???

Absolutely no discernable changes in reported temps using HWMon! NONE

Mainly I watched TMPNI2, but also kept eyes on all the others. In the end, this was useless. The sensors are whack. While running with no extra fans at all, both the NB and VRM heatsinks got so hot you could barely keep a finger on them. HWMon should have shown soaring temps, but nope.

As a last resort I took my 80mm, which moves a good amount of air and has a long cable on it, and just started randomly moving it around the case, holding it in different areas for a while to see if I could get a sizeable temperature drop. Nothing ever happened.

As I type this out, I have my 80mm mounted back over the NB but angled upwards so that the VRM's get some airflow as well. Prime95 is running and I can touch both heatsinks for as long as I want, they are good and warm but not scorching hot either. If I unplug that fan, within about 30 seconds they will both be extremely hot but I will see little to no change at all in HWMon.

I've tried other monitoring software as well, and everything always reports nearly the same as HWMon, so I just use that exclusively now. I like the layout the best.

I give up.
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Sorry to spam the thread, but I've been working on my system alot.

So, I thought to myself, why not use some of Gigabytes own software to check these temps out. Ready for a mind bender???

Running Prime95, Gigabyte EasyTune6 says my CPU was running 59C. The only sensor showing 59C in HWMon was TMPIN2. And EasyTune6 was playing an audiblle alarm sound indicating an overheat condition, meanwhile HWMon is reporting 46C Package Temp. If ET6 is telling the truth, then I've cooked my processor a few times over, because I've seen 75C and higher on TMPIN2, on multiple occasions. And note that ET6 doesn't read my fans correctly. I know my fans are running, I'm looking at them right now, but ET6 says all buy my CPU fan is dead.


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I still say the the HS on the NB is just crap. The only way to reduce the NB temp is changing the pink bubble gum, ahem, default TIM and use bolts and nuts to secure the HS. Of course, if you have the money/possibility to buy a aftermarket HS even better.

Well that confirms my personal opinion that ET6 is utterly worthless then same as AMD OverDrive.
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@Ozz & Baskt Case,

Your experiences duplicate mine. Baskt, I really believe you are only a short time from being in my "condition"....Failing (from heat) VRMs, the results you are having now, mirror mine from three weeks ago. Believe me, they are only going to get worse, your voltage will fluctuate and your VRM's will get hotter and then your temp will go up. Three weeks ago, I was getting 59C now getting 65-67C and throttling.

Today, now, am ordering the newest Sabertooth board. I'll be on their forum here, in the future. I much appreciate everybodies efforts here, I just don't believe we can fix Gigabytes Hard Ware/Wear problem.

Best of Luck to ALL.
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@Ozz & Baskt Case,

Your experiences duplicate mine. Baskt, I really believe you are only a short time from being in my "condition"....Failing (from heat) VRMs, the results you are having now, mirror mine from three weeks ago. Believe me, they are only going to get worse, your voltage will fluctuate and your VRM's will get hotter and then your temp will go up. Three weeks ago, I was getting 59C now getting 65-67C and throttling.

Today, now, am ordering the newest Sabertooth board. I'll be on their forum here, in the future. I much appreciate everybodies efforts here, I just don't believe we can fix Gigabytes Hard Ware/Wear problem.

Best of Luck to ALL.

As an alternative offering, I've never had a hardware issue on my UD5... and they are a significant amount cheaper than ASUS Sabertooth or Crosshair boards... but I'm in kind of the same place as a lot of you, despite having no physical problems with the UD5, it's still a pain in the @$$ at times to dial in OC for the CPU and RAM, not too mention the superior RAM standards most ASUS boards have when compared to their Gigabyte counterparts.
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