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Your friends RAM was all recognized yet yours isn't? Honestly I would say your RAM kit is probably defective frown.gif Can you have your friend try your RAM in his system to see if his can find it?

I did try them on his system (he has a Sabertooth) and they go flawless... actually he bought some G.Skill Sniper for himself and gave me the Kingston ones (that are this ones: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-139-046&SortField=1&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=gigabyte#top) I tried them again and nothing happened. Stayed into 8gb. However, I did found something interesting... when looking up on CPUZ, memory shows as "single channel", however recognizes 16gb. When I checked over AMD Overdrive, checks out 16gb and "dual channel". Is there a way to secure in BIOS to go Dual/Single Channel?
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I'm totally frustrated. I imported my new mid-end gaming PC parts and I wanted to give AMD a try to start overclocking. Here's my rig:

Windows 7 x64 (I also installed Windows8 x64)
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZYTc
Motherboard Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 1.0
AMD FX-6300 not overclocked at all.
(4 x 4gb) 16gb RAM Samsung branded 1600mhz (I tried with some Kingston low-profiled well rated in Newegg that a friend of mine currently uses, they're 1333mhz and also I get the same issue)
Nvidia GTX 650 Ti Boost
PSU Seasonic G 550 80 Plus Gold.

I've tried turning on my computer with only ONE stick of RAM but doesn't show anything on the screen, doesn't make sounds but the CPU fan sometimes gets louder. If I place TWO sticks of RAM I only get 4gb and when I go full house, I only get 8gb. I've cleared CMOS several times, I've cleared it with the pin, removing the battery, I've tried to force 1333mhz, I've taken out the GPU, put it back in, I've searched for bent pins on the processor and looks flawless, I've not overclocked at all because annoys me that I've only available 8gb. Easy Tuner from Gigabyte and CPUZ are able to see I've 4gb sticks available. The only time I was able to see 16gb was when I placed the other Kingston memory from my friend but as soon as I tried stability with Prime95 to start overclocking, the setting got screwed again. I've searched a lot and I'm not able to find a suitable answer. What could it be?

RMA is not an option since I live in El Salvador.

What can I do, experts? I'm in your hands.

Thank you!

1.) I've never heard/seen Samsung RAM well reviewed/rated anywhere. I'd start shopping around for something else.
2.) You didn't say what BIOS version you're running but based on your RAM issues I'm betting FA, DO THE FLASH to FC. I and another guy here had RAM issues that got WAY better after the BIOS flash. My CORSAIR Vengeance is rated at only 1600 and currently it's up to 1959, before the BIOS flash I was lucky to get 1600.
If after the BIOS update you're still not seeing 16GB then LOSE the SAMSUNG. I reccomned G.SKILL Ripjaws Series or CORSAIR Vengeance, but whatever you get, make sure it's "high performance" or "gaming" (under "Recomended use") or look for "XMP (Extreme Memory Profile) Support"
3.) if you're planning to OC the CPU eventually and it sounds like you are, and you're still sitting on a stock OEM cpu cooler, then you need to get something a little better on the way as well. Spend not LESS than $25 on that. This is the one I got. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus)
havn't installed it yet but I have no reason to doubt it will do the job.
ANYWAY update the bios and see where ya stand.
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I was pushing some DVD encoding today (CPU TEMP 50 (+/- 3C) and at the same time I was trying to move some large files off of a USB 3.0 external drive when for no apparent reason the external drive began, for lack of a better word, halting, stalling... could this be "throttling" related? Please say no.
If it is then I'm going to have to just get OFF this machine until such time as I HAVE TIME to install the new CPU COOLER
post #5634 of 12377
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I was pushing some DVD encoding today (CPU TEMP 50 (+/- 3C) and at the same time I was trying to move some large files off of a USB 3.0 external drive when for no apparent reason the external drive began, for lack of a better word, halting, stalling... could this be "throttling" related? Please say no.
If it is then I'm going to have to just get OFF this machine until such time as I HAVE TIME to install the new CPU COOLER

That doesn't seem like throttling per say to me... USB is always a secondary priority to resources if you have a program running from your main disk storage and off of your dedicated system memory. Also, depending on how large the files you're working on are it could be a matter of caching and the size page file you have Windows set to use. In case you're not familiar with what I mean by that, In windows, the OS sets aside a portion of the HDD/SSD (in Windows 7 I believe this is a minimum of 16GB and a max of 64GB) so if you're physical memory or CPU cache is getting taxed heavily it will switch to using the page file cache set aside on the disk drive. That can cause the halting and stalling you experienced.
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That doesn't seem like throttling per say to me... USB is always a secondary priority to resources if you have a program running from your main disk storage and off of your dedicated system memory. Also, depending on how large the files you're working on are it could be a matter of caching and the size page file you have Windows set to use. In case you're not familiar with what I mean by that, In windows, the OS sets aside a portion of the HDD/SSD (in Windows 7 I believe this is a minimum of 16GB and a max of 64GB) so if you're physical memory or CPU cache is getting taxed heavily it will switch to using the page file cache set aside on the disk drive. That can cause the halting and stalling you experienced.

Thanks Spaceman! I'm just glad to hear at least one person say they don't think throttling. I was concerned because I'm staring to hear some folks complain of issues a temps well shy of 60C. AND I've heard that depending on your OC "profile", IOW if you're tweaking up things other than just the CPU voltage and multiplier (as I am) it can result in, a cascading effect where pretty much everything is being OC'd (or "stressed") including the USB controler, and what if.....? AND yeah, caching was in the back of my mind. But this was more like a shut-down than the on-off-on of caching. The USB would hit these large vob files and the light on the drive would just go out and that was that. I restarted, changed the cable, and moved from a front-side 3.0 port to back-pannel one and all was groovy. I then returned to the top/front side port and original cable, and still all good. so that kinda left me with what-all else was going on at the time of the "gag' you know? At first I thought the drive might have been bad or drop-damaged. It's seems fine again for now.... But my radar is up now big time.
Edited by NoNewEgg4Me - 5/27/13 at 1:18pm
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Thanks Spaceman! I'm just glad to hear at least one person say they don't think throttling. I was concerned because I'm staring to hear some folks complain of issues a temps well shy of 60C. AND I've heard that depending on your OC "profile", IOW if you're tweaking up things other than just the CPU voltage and multiplier (as I am) it can result in, a cascading effect where pretty much everything is being OC'd (or "stressed") including the USB controler, and what if.....? AND yeah, caching was in the back of my mind. But this was more like a shut-down than the on-off-on of caching. The USB would hit these large vob files and the light on the drive would just go out and that was that. I restarted, changed the cable, and moved from a front-side 3.0 port to back-pannel one and all was groovy. I then returned to the top/front side port and original cable, and still all good. so that kinda left me with what-all else was going on at the time of the "gag' you know? At first I thought the drive might have been bad or drop-damaged. It's seems fine again for now.... But my radar is up now big time.

Then it would seem to me that one of your OC settings needs tweaked... It would lead me to think that the LLC or the Vcore needs tweaked, perhaps the HTT multiplier, maybe even a slight bump to the RAM voltage could fix it. Those at least seem to be the most likely suspects to me as it seems to only get congested at heavy CPU and Memory loads. I couldn't say for certain though, I've not really been successfully dialing in a good OC yet outside of a straightforward CPU Multiplier/Vcore boost... That's my project over the next week, because I've been able to get to 4.6 @ 1.45V on a simple CPUx increase, but not without getting dangerously high temps after about 15 minutes at full load... I'm thinking that I should be able to hit close to 5 or better if I can dial in a nice stable CPU/HTT overclock and keep the Vcore closer to about 1.4... maybe 1.425v.

I have noticed that the only time I experience "throttling like symptoms" is either on a 40% or higher OC, or when I'm really taxing the tar out of the cache, memory, and page file. My UD5 never really seems to get very hot, but I have noticed it can suffer from some pretty significant Vdroop at times... so hopefully I can get it dialed in and tuned as best as I can over the next week or two. But with all the issues of the 990FX that have been discussed on here, I'll keep pretty constant track of voltage usage and temps in HWinfo as I go through the process and share anything that seems unusual.
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Then it would seem to me that one of your OC settings needs tweaked... It would lead me to think that the LLC or the Vcore needs tweaked, perhaps the HTT multiplier, maybe even a slight bump to the RAM voltage could fix it. Those at least seem to be the most likely suspects to me as it seems to only get congested at heavy CPU and Memory loads. I couldn't say for certain though, I've not really been successfully dialing in a good OC yet outside of a straightforward CPU Multiplier/Vcore boost... That's my project over the next week, because I've been able to get to 4.6 @ 1.45V on a simple CPUx increase, but not without getting dangerously high temps after about 15 minutes at full load... I'm thinking that I should be able to hit close to 5 or better if I can dial in a nice stable CPU/HTT overclock and keep the Vcore closer to about 1.4... maybe 1.425v.

I have noticed that the only time I experience "throttling like symptoms" is either on a 40% or higher OC, or when I'm really taxing the tar out of the cache, memory, and page file. My UD5 never really seems to get very hot, but I have noticed it can suffer from some pretty significant Vdroop at times... so hopefully I can get it dialed in and tuned as best as I can over the next week or two. But with all the issues of the 990FX that have been discussed on here, I'll keep pretty constant track of voltage usage and temps in HWinfo as I go through the process and share anything that seems unusual.

perhaps, yes...but, here I am posting from work again so I can't give you exactly what-all it's at, but there should be a post a few pages back with where I "left off". I know I'm at 3.99Ghz from a stock of 3.3, what's that, like 20%? I could give the RAM +.05v, I had it at 1.6v for a while but didn't SEEM like it was making a difference. So when I got the ram up to 1959 I cut the voltage kick back to stock and when that didn't (seem to) impact the 1959 I left it. Yes I'm pretty sure HTT is upped but I'm also pretty sure it's like a single tick up. VCore voltage is upped but has been trail&error-groomed for what maintined the 3.99 with least temp genorated so I'm not keen on changing that... good food for thought for sure....
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1.) I've never heard/seen Samsung RAM well reviewed/rated anywhere. I'd start shopping around for something else.
2.) You didn't say what BIOS version you're running but based on your RAM issues I'm betting FA, DO THE FLASH to FC. I and another guy here had RAM issues that got WAY better after the BIOS flash. My CORSAIR Vengeance is rated at only 1600 and currently it's up to 1959, before the BIOS flash I was lucky to get 1600.
If after the BIOS update you're still not seeing 16GB then LOSE the SAMSUNG. I reccomned G.SKILL Ripjaws Series or CORSAIR Vengeance, but whatever you get, make sure it's "high performance" or "gaming" (under "Recomended use") or look for "XMP (Extreme Memory Profile) Support"
3.) if you're planning to OC the CPU eventually and it sounds like you are, and you're still sitting on a stock OEM cpu cooler, then you need to get something a little better on the way as well. Spend not LESS than $25 on that. This is the one I got. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus)
havn't installed it yet but I have no reason to doubt it will do the job.
ANYWAY update the bios and see where ya stand.

Thank you man! I was able to solve the problem. I kept the Kingston ones, and a few weeks ago I got a CM 212 EVO and I was pushing it too hard when placing it on the motherboard. I saw in Tom's Hardware that maybe CPU pins were dirty or I've had to re-sit the CPU. I tried that and I was able to see finally 16gb everywhere in my computer. I've restarted kinda 10 times today, did a little overclock and everything keeps stable.

Now, I'm concerned regarding what you say of the BIOS. I've currently F9 BIOS (for 1.1 rev) however, what does FC mean or where do I get to try it?

Thank you very much!
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mfalconer: You have a rev 1 mobo and i believe the F10 bios is the latest for it. The FC bios is for the rev 3 mobos.

I got the Thermalright hr-o9u cooler and and am working out how to mount it. Its base is just a little too long so its adjustable mounts will not work. I am not going to use those plastic push pins but nuts and bolts, so probably metal washers will work.

Those rubber cones for a backstop for the VRMs got me looking around and there is this wire mesh box like an in/out box full of miscellaneous stuff sitting on this desk, and the glued on rubber feet keep falling off. So I placed on in another case next to the mobo standoffs and it looks to be just the right size.

Haven't got an email from Gigabyte since last week.
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Hi guys, i have questions regarding temps of board and CPU (UD3 rev 1.2). OP says that TMPIN2 is NB temperature and TMPIN1 is CPU temp. But My test have shown that TMPIN2 highly depends on cpu freq/voltage and touchbios, made by gigabyte also reports the same temp as TMPIN2 as CPU temperature. For example: running a stress test, hwmonitor reports TMPIN1 56 C, TMPIN2 70 C and package 59 C. I am worried because touchbios reports that 70C is my CPU temp and in that case im in danger of damaging it so can any1 please tell me what is solution, which should i trust?
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