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NO CUSSING IN QBERT. lol

This is what I will say. I have had the 1055t on this board overclocked with a 620. Then swapped over to the 965 Black edition. Temps with 6 core 16c temps with 4 core 28c and on my sig rig I have a 8320 on a asrock x4 that runs 7c. So the number of cores have nothing to say about if you have more cores it will have more heat or be cooler. These are at idle overclock temps. Just keep that in mind games. Nothing wrong with a heated debate or we still might be at a stone wheel. thumb.gif

Someone here, (who as I recall kinda sounded like they knew what they were talking about), recently made the point that "at idle" temps are not to be taken too, if at all seriously. That they are all but useless information.
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Yes they are not accurate at all,

Like i said before my temps today were 16c at idle LOL that can never happen because my room temperature is 23c.

It can never be such a big difference in room and CPU temp because it is the same hot air u are pushing through the rad or heat sink thumb.gif
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i am afraid that is not true because i have the 8350 and it is called VISHERA and the others are BULLDOZER and there is a big difference.

So they are absolutely not the same, they do not give the other chips a different name for no reason rolleyes.gif

if they were the same you could buy an 8150 instead of the 8350 because they are the same witch they are not.

umm you fail at life?

The architecture of the 8150 and the 8350 are the same, they are just different MODELS. The 8350 is a newer and better revision of the 8150, but it still has the same BASE architecture. Besides I was not comparing the Piledriver (vishera) to Bulldozer(Zambezi) I stated that the FX 4100 shares the same die as the 8150.
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O CUSSING IN QBERT. lol

This is what I will say. I have had the 1055t on this board overclocked with a 620. Then swapped over to the 965 Black edition. Temps with 6 core 16c temps with 4 core 28c and on my sig rig I have a 8320 on a asrock x4 that runs 7c. So the number of cores have nothing to say about if you have more cores it will have more heat or be cooler. These are at idle overclock temps. Just keep that in mind games. Nothing wrong with a heated debate or we still might be at a stone wheel.

your comparing different generations of chips on different processes. The number of cores does effect the amount of heat generated but only if your making a direct comparison to cpus of the same generation.

Idle temps like the guy above me said don't really hold merit on AMD cpus, because the temperature is calculated instead of read. This temperature calculation is only accurate under load.
Edited by ebduncan - 5/30/13 at 9:15am
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Thank you all for replies smile.gif

So I tried to set my multiplicator on auto, and to increase my bus, but it's still the same : Double boot troubles :/

Which means I have no choice but keep my computer like this. My DD is a SSD, so that's ok for mechanical stuff.

My temps on OCCT are going to 50°C maximum. I have two fans on my CPU heatsink, one blowing in and one blowing out, so my VRM are hidden by the fan, plus the fan that is blowing air out of my case.

Actually my case is opened because my Mugen 2 rev.b is to high, so I think it has a great effect on temps smile.gif

OK I've looked. rerfreshed and refreshed again so unless some else is typing as I write this no one has already said this so here I go:

Gannon, ok, temps are now well within the safety zone so that's a good start. NOW To find out if you can make the double-post thing go away, or if you in fact have perment damage (which I doubt so far) you need to set the ENTIRE BIOS back to "Optimized Default" not just CPU mulitplier to auto. No OC on anything, not even the RAM (no XMP). Optimized Defaults accross the board. That should cure your double boot... I say should because my set up has in fact never had the issue so I personally have never had to cure it, but then I personally have been a lot less aggressive in my OC'ing than most too so..... anyway....
Assuming that cures your double post/boot thing you can then start, one thing at a time start easing it back up in baby steps until you see it misbehave then you can tweak it back to the last setting that was stable.
By one thing at a time I mean RAM then "system"(everything else). I personally found joy (when pushing the CPU multiplier) to do VCORE voltage, HTT, NB and Bus speed, all together, each in the smallest increment alowed, except Vcore voltage the allowed increments are small enough that you can go 1 or 2 ticks up from stock ON the 1st-go anyway. On subsequent go-rounds no more than 1 tick (or I believe +0.025v) (or is it +0.005v per tap?)

Quick correction, "Optimized Defaults" turns on "turbo", "cool & quiet" and I believe the "C41"(something like that) mode/option. ALL the stuff that looks good intuitively, that they tell you to TURN OFF if you're going to OC. If by any slim chance "Optimized Defaults fails to cure the double-post, go back in disable all those things "they" reccomend turning off before starting an OC. AND IF you're STILL double posting....
then... really not cool. You could well have damage. At that stage I'd start reseating/testing ram, try a different video card, stuff like that...
Edited by NoNewEgg4Me - 5/30/13 at 9:43am
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ok, I'll admit THAT's edging up on being a bit over my head, I just know, for whatever precise technical reason the 8-cores seem to get away with LESS (proportionally) of an overclock than does my 6 core before getting in to trouble temps-wise.
Now, exactly HOW MUCH of a difference there is in that area, is still reasonably up for debate. IMHO. (emphasis on the humble)rolleyes.gif

I wouldn't say that man.. I've had my 8120 up to 4.6... I just don't like it there because I shut er down when she hits 60C... which it does after about 10-15 minutes of full load stress testing. Real-world use at the 4.6 it never climbed above 52C... The best 24/7 stable that I've had with good temp control was still 4.2. So for the 8120 4.6 and 4.2 are clocks of 150% and 135% of stock respectively. It all depends on whether you get lucky and hit chip lotto or not. I'm thinking with some patience, a boatload of trial and error, and a bumped up cooling setup, I could probably hit 5+ with my 8120... I seem to have lucked out and gotten a pretty strong one.
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Yeah, the meaning of my post was that I am running the same overclock. The multiplier is at 22.5 and the vcore voltage is +0.025. That gives me a stable 4.5ghz with max temps of 56C, unless I run OCCT small data set which only takes a minute to hit the 65C redline. Or it used to. Now it throttles at 59C. I know the board is warped and I also need a better CPU HSF.
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umm you fail at life?

That kind of tone is not allowed here, you should know that by now.

The base is the same yes but there it stops so they are NOT the same.
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umm you fail at life?

That kind of tone is not allowed here, you should know that by now.

The base is the same yes but there it stops so they are NOT the same.

yeah that seemed a little unnecessarially harsh to me too.
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I wouldn't say that man.. I've had my 8120 up to 4.6... I just don't like it there because I shut er down when she hits 60C... which it does after about 10-15 minutes of full load stress testing. Real-world use at the 4.6 it never climbed above 52C... The best 24/7 stable that I've had with good temp control was still 4.2. So for the 8120 4.6 and 4.2 are clocks of 150% and 135% of stock respectively. It all depends on whether you get lucky and hit chip lotto or not. I'm thinking with some patience, a boatload of trial and error, and a bumped up cooling setup, I could probably hit 5+ with my 8120... I seem to have lucked out and gotten a pretty strong one.

"Chip Lotto" ? hmmm. interesting thought... I've had this saying for years, "I bet but I never gamble" applied to OC'ing, I'd say I when it comes to facing the prospect of RMAing $350 worth of hardware back through the APO (mail-only-no-UPS) system I make every effort NOT to play the Lotto. biggrin.gif
I wouldn't hesitate to go straight stock if it came to that. I know those are almost dirty words around here.....

but getting back to what I was saying and KINDA what you seemed to also be "supporting" in the end the actual difference of how much you can "get away with" with a 6core vs an 8core might be very little. But I'm pretty comfortable it ain't nothin' !
Edited by NoNewEgg4Me - 5/30/13 at 11:02am
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How are you guys controlling PWM fans? I can't get speedfan to work nor the gigabyte utility...
In BIOS it is an option to set the Fan Controlling Mode or something. It has 2 options: "Control by PWM" if your fan has PWM (4 threads) or "Control by Voltage" if you have classic 3 thread fans.
Either way, you have to go to Gigabyte Easytune 6 --> Smart --> CPU Fan / Fan1 etc. There you should play with the two "balls" and press "Set". Then go to HW Monitor Tab --> Fan/Temp and watch for the Fan RPM's.
Have fun.. I didn't wink.gif ... because is so damn awkward. But I slowly get used to crappy GB programming
Edited by sabinus - 5/30/13 at 11:20am
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