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But it's so damn ugly! Maybe they were in cahoots with Noctua when they made that thing.

I don't mean to be superficial but this thing needs to look the part. Maybe I'll look up builds with the Sabertooth. Any big difference between the different revision of that board?

LOL yeah i totally agree with you man thumb.gif

At first i was looking at the sabertooth but than i saw it in real live i would never buy that because it simply looks hideous.

Maybe its a better overclocker but as far as i seen they are pretty matched to the UD5.
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I almost pulled the trigger on an 8320 for around $140 last week, but I had second thoughts. I don't wanna have buyer's remorse, I'm gonna make this thing my baby.

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But it's so damn ugly! Maybe they were in cahoots with Noctua when they made that thing.

I don't mean to be superficial but this thing needs to look the part. Maybe I'll look up builds with the Sabertooth. Any big difference between the different revision of that board?
ge the r2.0
r1.0 has core unlocker and something else you loose that is unneeded on fx
r2.0 has direct bios button + usb bios flash ( can flash bios without cpu/ram )
r2.0/gen3 has pcie3.0 vio add on chip


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After looking up builds in the white and red NZXT Phantom, I want the Crosshair now. Is there any real reason to choose the Formula Z over the regular Formula? I hate being so indecisive over this stuff. Sway my opinion, guys
yes without the time to explain
1 formula is not sold any more and EOL
2 z has been rebuilt and much better

go for the z if you go this route
there is a microcenter in your state go there
what i did is i got an open box and the add on warranty
the open box failed ( as i new it would ) and would not post i tried everything bios update and clear ext

so i returned it they tried to charge me full price and i just complained " not my fault you all did not do proper testing. and i bought the warranty !~"

that is my i got it for 150 story

if none are in stock open box
you still get 40 off ~


if you can swing it i recommend 8350 over the 8320

late for work so gotta run
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What dictates how much ram in gb and speed a person should buy? How do I know if I need or want 2x4GB or 2x8gb or even 4x4gb or 4x8gb? If my board supports 2133, would you get 1866 cl 8 or 2133 cl 9? Thanks....

I just bought a crosshair v formula z.
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you want high clock(1866,2133,2400) low timings(CL)... 2133 cl9 would be better over 1866 cl8... cl8 is better timings but likely if you got the 2133 it would run at 1866 cl8 with no problems vs may be more difficult the other way around.

generally its actually better for your PC to use less ram sticks. 2x8gb or 2x4gb would probably be best for most, most the time you wont use more then 8 gb but better to have some buffer room.

you also want the lowest voltage ram.. generally they can all be pushed up past 1.65 volts but if you get 1.5v or lower ram that runs at 1866/2133 stock you will be able to push them further. (1.5v 1866 ram will run lower timings at 1.65v or higher clock sometimes with the same timings). Its a big give and take game for clock vs timings. but the highest clock lowest timing lowest voltage ram is generally best. G.Skill titans are currently top dawg and hold the record for the highest clock
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What dictates how much ram in gb and speed a person should buy? How do I know if I need or want 2x4GB or 2x8gb or even 4x4gb or 4x8gb? If my board supports 2133, would you get 1866 cl 8 or 2133 cl 9? Thanks....

I just bought a crosshair v formula z.

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What dictates how much ram in gb and speed a person should buy? How do I know if I need or want 2x4GB or 2x8gb or even 4x4gb or 4x8gb? If my board supports 2133, would you get 1866 cl 8 or 2133 cl 9? Thanks....

I just bought a crosshair v formula z.

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you want high clock(1866,2133,2400) low timings(CL)... 2133 cl9 would be better over 1866 cl8... cl8 is better timings but likely if you got the 2133 it would run at 1866 cl8 with no problems vs may be more difficult the other way around.

generally its actually better for your PC to use less ram sticks. 2x8gb or 2x4gb would probably be best for most, most the time you wont use more then 8 gb but better to have some buffer room.

you also want the lowest voltage ram.. generally they can all be pushed up past 1.65 volts but if you get 1.5v or lower ram that runs at 1866/2133 stock you will be able to push them further. (1.5v 1866 ram will run lower timings at 1.65v or higher clock sometimes with the same timings). Its a big give and take game for clock vs timings. but the highest clock lowest timing lowest voltage ram is generally best. G.Skill titans are currently top dawg and hold the record for the highest clock


The above are true. However you gotta consider the prices of both.

As you take a look at it, given the same brand, and series, that 1866 cl 8 is almost identical to a 2133 cl 9. both use the same chip under their skin. really identical. albeit one was clocked higher with looser timings to maintain the same voltage requirement.

That is why you can clock the 2133 cl 9 down to 1866 cl 8 with the same voltages. And that is also true for the 1866 cl 8. You can clock it to 2133 cl 9 at 1.5 volts.

But one must be priced higher than the other. And I believe it must be the 2133 cl 9 that is.

Just a marketing strategy on the manufacturers' part. Remember most people buy ram sticks for their MHz rating and a little about their timings. smile.gif

If choosing between those two, say between Gskill 1866 cl 8 and that 2133 cl 9, choose the lower priced between the two. And also remember, 2133 is not readily supported on FX boards without overclocking the FSB. While 1866 will run natively at default.

Choosing the GB of the RAM will go down to
1. Preferred GB a user wants. " Ohh, I got a 32 GB of RAM, my system is better than Yours! " you know what I mean thumb.gif
2. How much RAM a user really needs. Depending on the work scope of a User, most can get away with 8 or 16 GB. 4 is alright but that's already a minimum OS requirement nowadays. While others (Video encoders and graphics oriented works) need more than 32 GB for their Workstations.

smile.gif
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8gb of gskill ripjaws and i can convert 4 2 hours videos faster then i can burn them to a disc (granted the disc is a rewriteable 2x speed so its slow burn).

Still fairly impressive compared to my intel dual core that would do the same project in 8 hours with the same amount of ram.

The truth is you probably wouldn't see a major improvement vs a decent set of cheaper ram as far as day to day use and you probably wont ever need more then 16gb.
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8gb of gskill ripjaws and i can convert 4 2 hours videos faster then i can burn them to a disc (granted the disc is a rewriteable 2x speed so its slow burn).

Still fairly impressive compared to my intel dual core that would do the same project in 8 hours with the same amount of ram.

The truth is you probably wouldn't see a major improvement vs a decent set of cheaper ram as far as day to day use and you probably wont ever need more then 16gb.

I gotta cut it to you mate about 16GB and that you won't need more.

Working in a graphics company, we have all our workstations with 16GB of RAMS. Doing just Photoshop, 16 GB of RAM and people still have PC crashes due to an error stated "Not Enough System Memory"

Using a 64-bit Application to maximize the installed RAM, and you get that error. On Photoshop. Imagine that on Video Editing.
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you want high clock(1866,2133,2400) low timings(CL)... 2133 cl9 would be better over 1866 cl8... cl8 is better timings but likely if you got the 2133 it would run at 1866 cl8 with no problems vs may be more difficult the other way around.

generally its actually better for your PC to use less ram sticks. 2x8gb or 2x4gb would probably be best for most, most the time you wont use more then 8 gb but better to have some buffer room.

you also want the lowest voltage ram.. generally they can all be pushed up past 1.65 volts but if you get 1.5v or lower ram that runs at 1866/2133 stock you will be able to push them further. (1.5v 1866 ram will run lower timings at 1.65v or higher clock sometimes with the same timings). Its a big give and take game for clock vs timings. but the highest clock lowest timing lowest voltage ram is generally best. G.Skill titans are currently top dawg and hold the record for the highest clock

one nice thing is the amount of options you have as you have a CVFz both saberkitty and CVFz both will run 2400 at stock fsb IF your chip can handle it. a few ppl hae not been able to do it most can do at least 2 dims and some can do all 4 at 2400 !~

the above quote is good advice !~ but he refers to titans? i think he ment trident-x titan is the gskill brand SSD?

not all ram is equal some ram use same chips but that does not mean that lower speed rated ram will oc to the higher speed. it can however as with any silicone lottery there is a chance it will not.

some ram is marketed at the lower speed because the chips did not meet the bin requirements this is more and more true the higher speed you go the 3000
for example
these or these
are very very very rare that the memory chips used can handle these speeds, so they are binned accordingly or downgraded to the next lower speed in which they pass what ever test the manufacture uses to bin the chips.

sometimes they will rebrand chips if they have a surplus ( for example amd rebranded 8350s as 8320s where low on stock so they just made them 8320s instead granted this is a cpu but same thing can happen in ram )


i always recommend buying the fastest you can afford as you then can downclock it, tighten timings ( usually ) and possibly oc further where as the lower speed ram it is not guaranteed and well you may be that much more limited in your oc ( if you use fsb to oc )


this is a good kit i have seen it for 69, but that price is really low and i would not expect to see them that low soon
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231638
nice thing is 4gb sticks ( easier on imc ) and CL9 ( all the 8gb sticks i have seen are all cl10 )
i really like this kit and if you wait you can usually ketch it on sale for ~ 110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231589
( they price jumped again last time i looked they were at 150..... you may not be able to get 110 )

is it me or did ram just jump in price.... again .... it seems all ram is skyrocketing .... again... wow...
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you probably wont ever need more then 16gb.

A man once said that no one would ever need more than 64K of memory. Just because you may not need it now does not mean that you will not need it in the future. biggrin.gif
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