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Check out the Skyrim results.

Now, they have AA set to 0, which is bs, but, they're using a 680. I haven't seen fps loss with higher AA, not with Vsync on. But, considering the price I paid for the card, I'm running AA.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/12/intel-core-i5-4670k-haswell-cpu-review/5

Min fps for them was 45. Now, they most likely stayed in one town. You'll notice, my fps didn't drop sub 45 until I entered solitude. Basically, this backs up my own results, that I've posted a video of. Now, I was using Vsync, but, the drops would happen in the same spots.

Not to sound like a know it all, but, I know where the issue stems.
     
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I got skyrim I gonna try in the main town and in solitude with my old hardare, at settings which I'm at the limit, outside i'll be looking at 60 and will see how much it drops, you can also monitor your CPU usage to see what's going on, I personally think it's just the game, well, the place that's badly optimized, so perhaps with intels i7 it drops too, but a little less than the AMD, oh well I gonna test and tell you.
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I got skyrim I gonna try in the main town and in solitude with my old hardare, at settings which I'm at the limit, outside i'll be looking at 60 and will see how much it drops, you can also monitor your CPU usage to see what's going on, I personally think it's just the game, well, the place that's badly optimized, so perhaps with intels i7 it drops too, but a little less than the AMD, oh well I gonna test and tell you.

I wouldn't be surprised if intel did drop. I doubt so low however. I'm thinking 50ish, at the worst. I could be wrong though.

I mean, it's all good. The game really runs smoothly most of the time. The game runs noticeably better in the bad spots after I increased my oc from 4.2 to 4.4, lowered temps, and removed Vdrop.

I was amazed at how smoothly it ran when I was making those videos to be honest. I hadn't tried the game out, since my last oc adjustments. In a matter of fact, there were a few spots that used to drop, which now kept a full 60.

Did you buy Skyrim? If so, thanks for the effort man. biggrin.gif You're in for a treat if that's the case. It's a great game, despite the hate. I have been playing Elder scrolls games since the 90's, and I enjoyed Skyrim. Not as much as some of the others, but, I'm also older. My imagination isn't what it used to be.
     
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My 8350 has no issues keeping my 7970 maxed or FPS at 60 on about every game I play. Skyrim does have drops but as it was previously said its piss poor x87 coding, blaming AMD for a developers shortcomings is asinine. Crysis 3, BF4, Metro Last Light etc, the 7970 stays pegged. Older games Borderlands 2, Alan Wake, the new Shadow Warrior I'm seeing a steady 60fps. Are you running a low resolution? I know Intel lovers quite enjoy running things at 1024x768 to show off their CPU muscle...
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My 8350 has no issues keeping my 7970 maxed or FPS at 60 on about every game I play. Skyrim does have drops but as it was previously said its piss poor x87 coding, blaming AMD for a developers shortcomings is asinine. Crysis 3, BF4, Metro Last Light etc, the 7970 stays pegged. Older games Borderlands 2, Alan Wake, the new Shadow Warrior I'm seeing a steady 60fps. Are you running a low resolution? I know Intel lovers quite enjoy running things at 1024x768 to show off their CPU muscle...

No, I run at 1080p.

I know a few spots in Boarderlands 2 that you'll drop fps. You might not notice them, at first I didn't, until they were pointed out to me.

I haven't played any of the other games you've mentioned, not really what I'm into.

It would seem that only I, and reviewers have any of the issues I've pointed out.
     
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Running 1080p at those settings :

https://imageshack.com/i/nsju2wj

I get exactly the same as you 60 fps most of the time and drops to 30-40 in the town it's normal, lowering the shadow, aaoff, tryed all besides texture the FPS's stays the same as Ozzy says just poor coding.

Also check out my CPU usage after triggering a fight with the whole whiterun town lol.

https://imageshack.com/i/g1nhiqj

Still not 100% even with my ice age CPU e8500@4.3ghz Lol. Wonder how also.

BF4 kills my CPU it's 100% to the max now that's a real bottlenecking game.

Also you gotta test to lower a bit of antialiasing like just test the 1 under max, you can barely notice no difference anyway !

and try no FXAA I think I had a few more frames (which would make the frame lowering less noticeable).

The good test is to go on a part where your FPS are low, then go first person and move left to right as fast as you can, if it stays smooth then you're good it should'nt spike or notice.

It's just the game poorly optimized so the performance lacks for full AA even on a 780 lol.


For the luls now

https://imageshack.com/i/5nsoqqj


Oh and yea as you can see I also modded it a bit, can you dig that view distance ? smile.gif.

And on that spot I had 30fps.

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It didn't surprise me that it dropped in the same spots, or that the CPU usage wasn't 100%.

I thought FXAA was less intensive than normal AA. It's not a big deal however, since I really like the more rugged look of FXAA in this game.

Like I had mentioned before, their older game Oblivion drops in the same spots, a lot of it could engine limitations.

Thanks for taking a look at it. And once again, it ran very well when I made the videos last night, even in the spots it dropped. It was a noticeable improvement over my last OC. Maybe not in fps, but in smoothness.
     
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Speaking of bottleneck, I just read about the upcoming Kaveri APU and found some interesting facts!
The chip splits it's cores for the CPU and GPU and tasks are handled by the chip and not the OS. So, the APU and GPU can have access up to 32Gb RAM! biggrin.gif
Another interesting thing, an AMD R7 based card can have increases by almost 100% compared to Richland-based systems!

Now, we have no idea how it performs in single-thread apps but it still looks promising! Can't wait to see more infos and compare with the upcoming Haswells

Part 1: http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Kaveri-APU-Highlights-Part-1-12-Compute-Cores-and-4-GHz-Frequency-416767.shtml
Part 2: http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Kaveri-APU-Highlights-Part-2-hUMA-Allows-Both-CPU-and-GPU-Direct-Access-to-32-GB-RAM-416786.shtml
Part 3: http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Kaveri-APU-Highlights-Part-3-Dual-Graphics-TrueAudio-and-Fluid-Motion-Video-416847.shtml
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I wouldn't mind a APU based system for general computing.

Got that 2nd monitor in. Still haven't hooked it up, since, I really can't figure out a way that won't get in the way of general space. I'll just use the thing until I finish my ol'ladys system. Being a women, she isn't overly concerned with it, though, she does want it.

I was going to get a 2tb hdd to use as a data drive, and put my 1tb hdd data drive in the spare parts rig. Now, since I'm making it for her, I'm going to put in a 1tb hybrid instead. Since she only plays that mmo on her free time, it will be prefect for her.

CPU wise, I'm debating putting in a 6300, or, upgrading mine to a 8350, and putting in my 8320. Than there's moving to intel, and just putting my current mobo/cpu in there. I think I'm going to wait until next gen intels come out before making the move. AMD has me spoiled with more cores, and really want 6 or more. I just don't want to pay over 600 for a CPU. We'll see.

The ram, will be the ram I currently have in my system. OS, will be vista, since I have a laptop with it, that I can use the product key off of (Yea, it works like that). Though, I'd prefer to install Windows 8 for her, since her laptop uses that. Really, I'll let her decide what she wants to do with the OS. If she wants to buy a new copy of windows, we'll do it. I doubt she will however.

I'm always amazed at how nonchalant women are about tech. If i were her, I'd be so freaking ready to get away from gaming on a laptop. Anyway, I know when it's done, she'll love the thing. The game she plays, held 60 fps easy with my old setup, on pretty high settings. I mean, I didn't see how a raid would do, but, I did run some missions with her, on my old toons, doing fairly heavy high level crap. I'm thinking it will hold up well, it didn't drop on me during that time. (Errr... I used to play mmo's, but, I've been off that **** since 2010) biggrin.gif
     
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Nice...I really can't wait to get a second monitor! A guy runs 3x27" widescreens lol it's like actually being in a cockpit! biggrin.gif

Yeah hybrid drives looks great but in my case I am getting an SSD for FSX only...mechanical drives are just too slow, it takes 3-4min to load up a scene as opposed to seconds on an SSD! rolleyes.gif
The 6300 has a pretty impressive price/performance value! As for the upcoming Haswell, I am sure they will have outrageous prices at the beginning so these are off for me!
Yeah women aren't as excited as we are with techs, as long as the thing runs they are fine lol
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