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Yea, I've been though it.

That was my previous issue. I was able to pass all of the stress tests, Prime95,intel burn test, Memtest86, and Heaven.

It has to be that ram. Since it's the one common thing between the computers.

Oh well, this kind of screws me on my new CPU / mobo this week.
     
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Yea, I've been though it.

That was my previous issue. I was able to pass all of the stress tests, Prime95,intel burn test, Memtest86, and Heaven.

It has to be that ram. Since it's the one common thing between the computers.

Oh well, this kind of screws me on my new CPU / mobo this week.


I never run prime95 because it give an false image of an stable system.

for example, i could run prime for hours on end with great temps but after 30min of gaming it can crash.

IMO its better to do an FPU test which you can do with AIDA64 or some other program that pushes the CPU to its max thermal limit for about 30minutes and if its stable without any errors or overheating you can use your system for a while and run some benchmarks or whatever to see for how long its stable.


I did run prime95 before because some people claim to be stable if they could manage to run prime hours and hours on end but discovered that they had no idea on what they were talking about because i was ''prime stable'' for a very long time but when i reboot my system and try to play a game it crashed after 10 minutes.

I was getting mad because i could not get my system stable in real live applications, so i stopped using prime95 and did what i said in the above and now my system is 100% stable and have had zero blue screens and runs everything i throw at it thumb.gif

So there is not ONE program that determines absolute stability of your system IMO.

This is MY opinion so do with it what you want thumb.gif
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Thanks, however, I don't think stability is the problem. When I previously had the issue, stock settings didn't fix it.

I had this same issue with my rig. I ended up pulling my 780, and putting a hd 7850 in it. That seemed to fix the problem.

I was in the process of building a system for my ol'lady. I was intending to use the 7850 in her system. I got all of her items in before getting my replacement 780 expect the ram.

I pull the HD 7850, and ram out of my system to put in hers. A few days later I got my replacement 780, and some new ram. I haven't had any issues since.

Now, suddenly her system is having the same issue I had. That points towards the ram. How come the ram worked fine for me once I replaced the 780 with the 7850? I don't know, the problem seemed random enough.

It has to be the ram. If it isn't the ram, than my HD 7850 is having the same issue my 780 was having. That's a scary thought, since it makes me think of PSU issues, which means my current 780 might be getting messed up by my PSU.
     
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Thanks, however, I don't think stability is the problem. When I previously had the issue, stock settings didn't fix it.

I had this same issue with my rig. I ended up pulling my 780, and putting a hd 7850 in it. That seemed to fix the problem.

I was in the process of building a system for my ol'lady. I was intending to use the 7850 in her system. I got all of her items in before getting my replacement 780 expect the ram.

I pull the HD 7850, and ram out of my system to put in hers. A few days later I got my replacement 780, and some new ram. I haven't had any issues since.

Now, suddenly her system is having the same issue I had. That points towards the ram. How come the ram worked fine for me once I replaced the 780 with the 7850? I don't know, the problem seemed random enough.

It has to be the ram. If it isn't the ram, than my HD 7850 is having the same issue my 780 was having. That's a scary thought, since it makes me think of PSU issues, which means my current 780 might be getting messed up by my PSU.

You're jumping in to a pool of sharks mate!!!

There are computer issues that doesn't contribute to stability and bad components.

Just a few days ago, I replaced a VGA and HDMI cable on one of our workstations ( Developer Computer Actually ) and used a DVI-HDMI and a new HDMI in return.

After a couple of minutes, the system went crazy. And I was like, COME ON!!! I just replaced a couple of monitor cables for crying out loud!!!

Bios reset, CMOS cleared, pullout the GT640s, cleaned it, still the same.

Guess what fixed the issue??

Resetting the GPU into another PCIE slot doh.gif

What I'm trying to say is that, you can test the system in a systematic way rather than pulling the trigger on suspected components that may cause the issue right away.

For the RAM, memtest is a standalone software that removes the interaction of the whole system during the test. Thus the interface. You may pass memtest 24/4 but once the system boots into windows is another story.

For the GPU, like the one I said above, it maybe because the MOBO has an issue injected into the PCIE slot. Or some dirt on the slot. rolleyes.gif

Again, pullout everything and test by component rather than eyeing one at once. Get your self dirty mate. OCN may be full of people willing to help but in any event, you should also consider doing things your own way. There's a chance some people never experienced the issue you're having.
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Yea, you are very correct about that.

I did already order some new ram. Also, I am still ordering cpu/mobo tomorrow. When the ram, cpu/mobo comes in, I'll replace the "970a-ud3" in her system with my "990fxa-ud5". I'm not going to put the 8320 in there though, since I like the thermal performance of that fx6300.

I'll see what happens from there.

*Oh yea, I'm going to send that ram in for a RMA also. So, I'm killing 2 birds. I've got my ol'ladys system, my system, and I'll have my current mobo/cpu (ol'lady doesn't want the mobo w/e). Now, I'll have a 8gb ram set for my 8320/990fxa-ud5. Shoot, I've even got another case in storage. So, all I need is a PSU, GPU, and HDD to have another system. biggrin.gif What's that, $300 or so depending? Not shabby.
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Well, my ol'ladys computer is doing the same thing mine had done.

When idle, it shuts down, with fans running.

So, that ram must be bad, since that's the one common thing between our computers. I used my old ram on hers. Maybe that GTX 780 wasn't bad, and it was the ram. I just don't understand why replacing the GPU stopped the issue?

Now, other things. I did use her current GPU with the PSU in my system right now. Maybe my PSU is the cause, and it just took a while to show up?
OCCT has a free program that has a stress test for power supplies and other things that might be of help, just a thought.
Link to OCCT
Edited by SeriousTom - 3/14/14 at 2:13pm
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Thanks, yea I'll check it out. None of the usual stress programs are causing it to crash.

I still can't help but notice it is the same problem I had. There is another thing I should mention.

When I went to run heaven, I got a directX error, which refuses to start it in full screen. This doesn't always happen, but, once it does the system requires a restart to be able to run it. My system was doing the same thing when I was having the issues. I'll have to remember to write it down if it happens again. Usually I'd save things like that as a text document on my desktop until I've got things figured out. At least on mine, reinsalling drivers didn't fix the issue. Could bad memory cause directx issues?

Anyway, when I get that replacement ram in, I'm going to reset everything, and make sure all the connections are clean (I already do this, but). I'll than RMA the ram, since the shipping on ram will be so cheap.
     
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Thanks, yea I'll check it out. None of the usual stress programs are causing it to crash.

I still can't help but notice it is the same problem I had. There is another thing I should mention.

When I went to run heaven, I got a directX error, which refuses to start it in full screen. This doesn't always happen, but, once it does the system requires a restart to be able to run it. My system was doing the same thing when I was having the issues. I'll have to remember to write it down if it happens again. Usually I'd save things like that as a text document on my desktop until I've got things figured out. At least on mine, reinsalling drivers didn't fix the issue. Could bad memory cause directx issues?

Anyway, when I get that replacement ram in, I'm going to reset everything, and make sure all the connections are clean (I already do this, but). I'll than RMA the ram, since the shipping on ram will be so cheap.

Don't think so.

Might be an issue caused by OC'ing the GPU. That's a 780 right?

I have frequent issues like that OC'ing my 650TI Boost.
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Don't think so.

Might be an issue caused by OC'ing the GPU. That's a 780 right?

I have frequent issues like that OC'ing my 650TI Boost.

When I was having the issue, I wasn't Oc'ing my 780. (It doesn't really need it)

I'm also not oc'ing my ol'ladys 7850. (She doesn't need the 7850 oc'ed for Dungeons and Dragons online)


When I was using the 7850, before I bought the 780, I did OC that card.
     
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Has anyone had any issues with overclocking the CPU-NB on the UD3, I can't get mine past stock 2200Mhz? I've gone to 1:1 with HT Link, and even went to 1.325 on the voltage to no avail.

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