Originally Posted by ebduncan
Originally Posted by Mega Man
yea no , it does not make as much of a difference because of ram speed, if you are pushing 2400 ram it can help 2133 or less 2400/2600 is plenty
2400 ram does make a difference, stating that it does not, is like saying there is no difference between 85 and 95 ( or what ever octane you have in your country, low/ high ) for your car, there is a difference, most people just dont understand
what it is, and when they "dont see it" they tell everyone there is no performance gains in real world, which is false, as it would depend on what you do with your pc, and not a blanket statement
There are no performance gains from using higher octane fuel in 99% of production vehicles, most are tuned to run on the lower octane fuel. Some performance cars require high octane fuel and no less, or they will ping themselves to death. You can get performance gains from higher octane fuel in any cars that is not tuned for it, by re-tuning and reworking the ignition tables for more advanced timing, or increasing the compression ratio etc etc.
Back to the land of computers. Stock NB speed is 2200 for most FX processors. Most people who overclock memory are going after raw read/write/copy speeds This type of overclocking as very small real world gains as to get higher raw speed, the timings become loose. You see better gains by decreasing the latency of the memory (AKA timings).
I don't like to overclock the CPU-NB, first the extra heat created by increasing the voltage to the CPU-NB is crazy. Second, there isn't a performance increase worth the extra heat and power. 3rd in my case anything past 2400 and my Windows Aero is all sorts of messed up.
Currently I sit at 2365 on my cpu-nb with stock voltage. (215x11) my cpu is at 5052mhz (215x23.5)@ 1.525 volts Memory is at 2006mhz (215x9.33) timings are 9-9-9-24, 1T @ 1.65 volts Hyper Transport is at 2795.(215x13) This is actually the sweet spot for me, and I've benched real world things best with these settings. Increasing the memory speed and giving up the timings hurt performance in alot of cases. Higher CPU-NB speeds caused windows aero problems and maybe saw a small gain in performance ( and again increasing the CPU-NB voltage makes the cpu pump out EVEN more heat and use more power). Increasing the hypertransport speed did actually net some gains in games, small but it was there and measurable.
Btw I know people have had problems with the motherboard warping around the VRM area. I made a aluminum back plate for the VRM section. Improved temps and keeps the board from warping. I should be posting a how-to here shortly.
some of my response is below, but first lets run a top of the line engine ( assuming you are not at high altitude ) ie top end Corvette, viper or any highly tuned engine ( hemis ) there is a huge difference, however like all things it has to be used correctly, and TUNED properly. where i normally agree with you, i will have to agree to disagree on this point,
back to pcs, jsut because you dont like to oc cpu/nb thats great! but i do just for the challenge, you bring out cinebench i would love to you beat my 3dm11 physics score, people have but not many and i can count them on one hand ( on water NOT phase or above ! and not on home made chillers )
as for ht you dont run quadfire last i knew, where i do not need 3900ht for it, i like it just because i can, yes it adds heat and minimizes max oc, but that is what i am ok with, because i can although i dont claim it has magical gains, ocing ht has been proven to be very very beneficial to quadfire setups
Originally Posted by BuZADAM
How can ı work my corsair dominator gt ram @2000 mhz on 990fxa ud7 rev1.0
My current speed 9 10 9 27 @1600 mhz 4 dimm slot
My cpu fx9590
you should be able to get that however you will be ocing the imc and there is a chance you can not, one thing you will need to do is overvolt the ram by 1 or 2 bumps ( ~ .005-.01 ) set speed and timings, and may need to increase cpu/nb by .1v, and the northbridge as well ( FROM STOCK VALUES ) let me know if this does not work
Originally Posted by Chargeit
We'll I've got my 4770k installed, and windows updating. Can't wait to see how this thing works out.
I'm going to use my FX8320 for a server PC most likely. I've got it, that 990FXA-UD5, and 8 gb ram sitting around now. Not sure how power efficient it will be, but, I'm not worried about that.
I have to mention, the 990FXA-UD5 feels much beefier than the Maximus VI Hero. Also, I'm 1 internal USB connector short. So, no front panel SD card reader, since the H100i takes one up, and the case usb connections take up the other.
one idea for you if you need that
Originally Posted by ebduncan Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Originally Posted by mus1mus
CPU-NB can be raised beyond 2400 MHz on GIGA boards. It has been discussed and proven already. Just avoid the CPU-NB Multi X12, Add some FSB while keeping it at x11 or go straight to x13.
Also, RAM can be overclocked in many ways.
1. You can get lucky and be able to extract an extra 266 MHz without loosening the Timings just by adding a few mV on RAM Voltage.
2. Or you can tighten the timings a couple of notches down while keeping the Frequency.
3. Factory Overclocking for the RAMs on the other hand follows a simple rule:
Get a standard 1600 9-9-9-24-1T-1.3V, OC it to 1866 9-10-9-27-1T-1.5V or 2133 10-11-10-1T-1.5V and other stuff. Upping the Frequency and Loosening the timings and some Voltage Bumps.
For the gains, there are so many things we cannot see a computer is doing. But to claim there is no gain on OC'ing the RAMs or CPU-NB is pure ignorance.
Try to OC like number 1 and 2 so you'll see wonders on the gains.
did you even read what i said? I did say there was small gains from increasing the Cpu-NB, truth is its NOT WORTH the extra heat and the additional power consumption.
In Almost all benchmarks I have run, tighter timings beat out frequency.
In my benchmarks, Not many have come close to my scores..... Besides the point if you bothered to notice you will see my memory is running at 2006mhz with 9-9-9-24 -1T timings. In other words go bark at someone else.
i would love to test mine, but atm it is impossible as it is in multi pieces as i am modding the case and system in a few months when i am done i will be glad to see.
one simple case where you are completely incorrect is for example ram disk, which although you may not use, does not mean everyone is just like you.
Originally Posted by GroovyMotion
Hey guys, haven't been here for a while but something weird happened a few days ago! All my fans and PSU are running 100% even with very little RAM/CPU usage! I am running bone stock, haven't played any games for a long while, just doing some web dev. I haven't touched anything in the BIOS, everything stock but fans run as if it was under OC! Even as I type my cpu is very quiet and RAM usage is @24%! I even opened the doors of the casing and open the window but the freakin thing is just eating fan juice! I have filters and they are all clean so I really don't know what is going on! The cpu temp is as high as when I was under OC even worst sometimes! Yesterday it peaked at 69C, I found the culprit it was mailbird that thing is juice sucker but even if it's not running I can see 65C!
Could it be the mobo?
yea i really dont understand what you said what is mailbird?
pics of things like task manager to show cpu useage ? is it possible you have a virus ? i have seen some where you for example mine for others
Originally Posted by mus1mus
Kind words there.
is a very knowledgeable user who is normally correct, however he does not sugar coat much and is blunt, he means no disrespect mostly