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did you even read what i said? I did say there was small gains from increasing the Cpu-NB, truth is its NOT WORTH the extra heat and the additional power consumption.

In Almost all benchmarks I have run, tighter timings beat out frequency.

In my benchmarks, Not many have come close to my scores..... Besides the point if you bothered to notice you will see my memory is running at 2006mhz with 9-9-9-24 -1T timings. In other words go bark at someone else.


WoW!!

Kind words there.

Would you mind going down to 4.5 so we can compare scores? Not so many can match that, CORRECT. Since not so many in here belongs to the

FIIIIVVVE GIGAHURTZ CLUB

Not worth the extra heat? On WATER?

You must be joking.

Just because you are doing good on your venture, you shouldn't listen to other people.

Or is it because you never found a way to get past 2400 on CPU-NB without issues on Windows Aero?

Not barking here. Nor starting a flame. Just saying the facts.
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Hey guys, haven't been here for a while but something weird happened a few days ago! All my fans and PSU are running 100% even with very little RAM/CPU usage! I am running bone stock, haven't played any games for a long while, just doing some web dev. I haven't touched anything in the BIOS, everything stock but fans run as if it was under OC! Even as I type my cpu is very quiet and RAM usage is @24%! I even opened the doors of the casing and open the window but the freakin thing is just eating fan juice! I have filters and they are all clean so I really don't know what is going on! The cpu temp is as high as when I was under OC even worst sometimes! Yesterday it peaked at 69C, I found the culprit it was mailbird that thing is juice sucker but even if it's not running I can see 65C!
Could it be the mobo?

Windows infections I should say.
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WoW!!

Kind words there.

Would you mind going down to 4.5 so we can compare scores? Not so many can match that, CORRECT. Since not so many in here belongs to the

FIIIIVVVE GIGAHURTZ CLUB

Not worth the extra heat? On WATER?

You must be joking.

Just because you are doing good on your venture, you shouldn't listen to other people.

Or is it because you never found a way to get past 2400 on CPU-NB without issues on Windows Aero?

Not barking here. Nor starting a flame. Just saying the facts.

All i am going to say now is wolf wolf.
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All i am going to say now is wolf wolf.

The attitude!! Nice try
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your welcome to try and match my scores. Oh wait you cannot. rolleyes.gif
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your welcome to try and match my scores. Oh wait you cannot. rolleyes.gif

HAHA.

You're a funny little man..
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Standard 3.5mm Jacks will accommodate 3.5mm Plugs without issues.

Unless the Jacks have defects in the case. Like I stated.
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yea no , it does not make as much of a difference because of ram speed, if you are pushing 2400 ram it can help 2133 or less 2400/2600 is plenty

2400 ram does make a difference, stating that it does not, is like saying there is no difference between 85 and 95 ( or what ever octane you have in your country, low/ high ) for your car, there is a difference, most people just dont understand what it is, and when they "dont see it" they tell everyone there is no performance gains in real world, which is false, as it would depend on what you do with your pc, and not a blanket statement

There are no performance gains from using higher octane fuel in 99% of production vehicles, most are tuned to run on the lower octane fuel. Some performance cars require high octane fuel and no less, or they will ping themselves to death. You can get performance gains from higher octane fuel in any cars that is not tuned for it, by re-tuning and reworking the ignition tables for more advanced timing, or increasing the compression ratio etc etc.

Back to the land of computers. Stock NB speed is 2200 for most FX processors. Most people who overclock memory are going after raw read/write/copy speeds This type of overclocking as very small real world gains as to get higher raw speed, the timings become loose. You see better gains by decreasing the latency of the memory (AKA timings).

I don't like to overclock the CPU-NB, first the extra heat created by increasing the voltage to the CPU-NB is crazy. Second, there isn't a performance increase worth the extra heat and power. 3rd in my case anything past 2400 and my Windows Aero is all sorts of messed up.

Currently I sit at 2365 on my cpu-nb with stock voltage. (215x11) my cpu is at 5052mhz (215x23.5)@ 1.525 volts Memory is at 2006mhz (215x9.33) timings are 9-9-9-24, 1T @ 1.65 volts Hyper Transport is at 2795.(215x13) This is actually the sweet spot for me, and I've benched real world things best with these settings. Increasing the memory speed and giving up the timings hurt performance in alot of cases. Higher CPU-NB speeds caused windows aero problems and maybe saw a small gain in performance ( and again increasing the CPU-NB voltage makes the cpu pump out EVEN more heat and use more power). Increasing the hypertransport speed did actually net some gains in games, small but it was there and measurable.


Btw I know people have had problems with the motherboard warping around the VRM area. I made a aluminum back plate for the VRM section. Improved temps and keeps the board from warping. I should be posting a how-to here shortly.

some of my response is below, but first lets run a top of the line engine ( assuming you are not at high altitude ) ie top end Corvette, viper or any highly tuned engine ( hemis ) there is a huge difference, however like all things it has to be used correctly, and TUNED properly. where i normally agree with you, i will have to agree to disagree on this point,

back to pcs, jsut because you dont like to oc cpu/nb thats great! but i do just for the challenge, you bring out cinebench i would love to you beat my 3dm11 physics score, people have but not many and i can count them on one hand ( on water NOT phase or above ! and not on home made chillers )
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6664211

as for ht you dont run quadfire last i knew, where i do not need 3900ht for it, i like it just because i can, yes it adds heat and minimizes max oc, but that is what i am ok with, because i can although i dont claim it has magical gains, ocing ht has been proven to be very very beneficial to quadfire setups

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Hi megaman

How can ı work my corsair dominator gt ram @2000 mhz on 990fxa ud7 rev1.0

My current speed 9 10 9 27 @1600 mhz 4 dimm slot

My cpu fx9590
you should be able to get that however you will be ocing the imc and there is a chance you can not, one thing you will need to do is overvolt the ram by 1 or 2 bumps ( ~ .005-.01 ) set speed and timings, and may need to increase cpu/nb by .1v, and the northbridge as well ( FROM STOCK VALUES ) let me know if this does not work
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We'll I've got my 4770k installed, and windows updating. Can't wait to see how this thing works out.

I'm going to use my FX8320 for a server PC most likely. I've got it, that 990FXA-UD5, and 8 gb ram sitting around now. Not sure how power efficient it will be, but, I'm not worried about that.

I have to mention, the 990FXA-UD5 feels much beefier than the Maximus VI Hero. Also, I'm 1 internal USB connector short. So, no front panel SD card reader, since the H100i takes one up, and the case usb connections take up the other.
one idea for you if you need that
http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/99-iu01-usb-expansion-case-accessory

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CPU-NB can be raised beyond 2400 MHz on GIGA boards. It has been discussed and proven already. Just avoid the CPU-NB Multi X12, Add some FSB while keeping it at x11 or go straight to x13.

Also, RAM can be overclocked in many ways.

1. You can get lucky and be able to extract an extra 266 MHz without loosening the Timings just by adding a few mV on RAM Voltage.

2. Or you can tighten the timings a couple of notches down while keeping the Frequency.

3. Factory Overclocking for the RAMs on the other hand follows a simple rule:

Get a standard 1600 9-9-9-24-1T-1.3V, OC it to 1866 9-10-9-27-1T-1.5V or 2133 10-11-10-1T-1.5V and other stuff. Upping the Frequency and Loosening the timings and some Voltage Bumps.

For the gains, there are so many things we cannot see a computer is doing. But to claim there is no gain on OC'ing the RAMs or CPU-NB is pure ignorance.

Try to OC like number 1 and 2 so you'll see wonders on the gains.

did you even read what i said? I did say there was small gains from increasing the Cpu-NB, truth is its NOT WORTH the extra heat and the additional power consumption.

In Almost all benchmarks I have run, tighter timings beat out frequency.

In my benchmarks, Not many have come close to my scores..... Besides the point if you bothered to notice you will see my memory is running at 2006mhz with 9-9-9-24 -1T timings. In other words go bark at someone else.

i would love to test mine, but atm it is impossible as it is in multi pieces as i am modding the case and system in a few months when i am done i will be glad to see.

one simple case where you are completely incorrect is for example ram disk, which although you may not use, does not mean everyone is just like you.
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Hey guys, haven't been here for a while but something weird happened a few days ago! All my fans and PSU are running 100% even with very little RAM/CPU usage! I am running bone stock, haven't played any games for a long while, just doing some web dev. I haven't touched anything in the BIOS, everything stock but fans run as if it was under OC! Even as I type my cpu is very quiet and RAM usage is @24%! I even opened the doors of the casing and open the window but the freakin thing is just eating fan juice! I have filters and they are all clean so I really don't know what is going on! The cpu temp is as high as when I was under OC even worst sometimes! Yesterday it peaked at 69C, I found the culprit it was mailbird that thing is juice sucker but even if it's not running I can see 65C!
Could it be the mobo?
yea i really dont understand what you said what is mailbird?
pics of things like task manager to show cpu useage ? is it possible you have a virus ? i have seen some where you for example mine for others
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WoW!!

Kind words there.

@ebduncan is a very knowledgeable user who is normally correct, however he does not sugar coat much and is blunt, he means no disrespect mostly
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Btw I know people have had problems with the motherboard warping around the VRM area. I made a aluminum back plate for the VRM section. Improved temps and keeps the board from warping. I should be posting a how-to here shortly.

Very interested in this! My board is warped. Didn't know it was until I completely removed it to add waterblocks to NB and mosfets. Will the back plate help straighten it if it's already warped? Or only good for preventing warping?

You can see the warping here in the bottom right where the blue and red USB connectors are.


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did you even read what i said? I did say there was small gains from increasing the Cpu-NB, truth is its NOT WORTH the extra heat and the additional power consumption.

In Almost all benchmarks I have run, tighter timings beat out frequency.

In my benchmarks, Not many have come close to my scores..... Besides the point if you bothered to notice you will see my memory is running at 2006mhz with 9-9-9-24 -1T timings. In other words go bark at someone else.


Be interested in your Cinebench R15 scores. No one has beat mine on air/water yet. Don't think anyone has gotten the efficiency as high either but there's not that many people on there, not as much competition. Typically getting same or higher scores at lower CPU clocks then others on there.
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I might try and bench my system again, before the summer. I removed my crossfire 7950's in favor of a single R9-290, and put it under water. Ever since I added the GPU to the cooling loop its hard to achieve the super great cpu temps I had before though. I'm sure I can still reach 5160mhz or higher though , granted stability is questionable. I haven't tried since I added the VRM back plate on the motherboard either, that could help. My board is rev 1.0 so I don't get the luxury of LLC.

MegaMan is correct, I am blunt. Sorry if you think I insult you in anyway, I am not trying to get at you.

Speaking of Megaman, that is certainly a good physic's score I'm right at 9k with my daily clocks (5ghz). Using windows 7 -64bit, apparently windows 8 hurts the physic's scores so i have read anyways. Also on the Ram disk thing Bandwidth is all that matters there so frequency trumps timings. Not many folks use a Ram Disk though.
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Very interested in this! My board is warped. Didn't know it was until I completely removed it to add waterblocks to NB and mosfets. Will the back plate help straighten it if it's already warped? Or only good for preventing warping?

You can see the warping here in the bottom right where the blue and red USB connectors are

Adding the back plate fixed the problem for me where some of the vrm mosfets wouldn't make good contact with the thermal pad/VRM heatsink. If your board is currently warped and your VRM do not make good contact, the back plate will fix it. It should prevent warping all together, per the increased cooling capacity and rigidity it adds. Its only for the VRM section. Its possible to make a larger back plate, I just didn't think it was needed. I make experiment more to add behind the cpu socket as well.


I plan on cleaning out the computer sometime this week and I will take pictures of how its done. I know a lot of you guys like ozzy, have had problems with the VRM section on the board.
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