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Derp - That is an EXCELLENT post!

I have fairly small hands . From my wrist to the tip of my middle finger is 7.5 inches.

The CM Storm looks amazing to me. I like the Mionix design but the front to back length is pointless. My fingers still rub the mat if I completely rest them in the grooves. So Im using this bulky ass mouse for no reason. And its extremely hard to pick up. So if I can get a much smaller version where I can just use my fingers and occasionally pull it into my palm a little. Damn.

The Xai looks fairly decent size as well. I just can't go with something the same length as the deathadder. I wouldn't know what to expect on how the Xai feels in my hands also. Im very intrigued by this mouse (maybe a bit obsessive) but I just don't know if its a good fit.

If the G500 uses the same sensor as the G9x, I will hold off. Im going to see how I like the G9x. I figure some more news about the Valor will be out and hopefully the Spawn will be coming around.

I think Im just going to pass on the Abyssus. Its not just the jitter problem but the lack of buttons. Usually I can ignore things but when they start adding up....
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Originally Posted by Cpt.Jeff;13602233 
If you don't use the Intellimouse 3.0 or Wheelmouse optical, your not doing it right?

In a way yes, just some few ones who really play it hardcore or just wanna join the bandwagon since the pros use the same mouse it automatically becomes the god mouse. Both mices mentioned are quite horrible TBH. Go with what you want and what feels comfortable in your hands.

Good idea to wait for the Valor, I have one pre-ordered but I a bit disappointed that they had to push back the release date and its gonna take another 15days for them to fed-ex it to my place.
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post #23 of 44
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Originally Posted by Cpt.Jeff;13602233 
If you don't use the Intellimouse 3.0 or Wheelmouse optical, your not doing it right?

I been having a hard time figuring out just what to use and am already going through mice right now.

I have a G9x on the way which I have used before but not on a pc (PS3 setup deal for about a week). I just returned a Deathadder 3.5g and a RAT 7. The Mionix 5000 I am using is about to go back to amazon.... I just played some Crysis 1 with an MX518 I bought years ago and it felt pretty nice.

I like having a smaller mouse. The 518 fits VERY nicely in my hands and I can't complain at all about it. The Mionix doesn't feel right, is too wide, and is difficult to pick up due to having a slippery feel.

Other mice I have been watching are; CM Storm Inferno, Roccat Kone+, SS Kinzu, SS Xai, G500, Razer Abyssus and thats about it. I prefer a smaller fitting mouse as the deathadder just felt ok to me. I move the mouse around with palm into palm/claw into fingertip.

The problem is that I hear bad things about every single mouse I look into. Im not a CS pro. I don't swipe the mouse across my mat furiously. I don't understand how the accelaration and deceleration actually work. Do they only occur @ certain speeds of mouse movement?

if u feel good with mx518, then buy another mx518. U found the perfect mouse for u, so why to change?
It is a good mouse, even if i like my ime3.0 more.
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post #24 of 44
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Originally Posted by EarlZ;13604205 
In a way yes, just some few ones who really play it hardcore or just wanna join the bandwagon since the pros use the same mouse it automatically becomes the god mouse. Both mices mentioned are quite horrible TBH. Go with what you want and what feels comfortable in your hands.

Good idea to wait for the Valor, I have one pre-ordered but I a bit disappointed that they had to push back the release date and its gonna take another 15days for them to fed-ex it to my place.

I don't really want to get into lowering resolution in my games to get my pixel perfect aiming. I have what I have to play in as nice a setting as possible. If I didn't mention before, I am not a CS pro. I played CS since the day it launched in beta form til around version 1.1. I have no intentions of trying to become pro at any video game.

I was thinking about purchasing the Valor then I saw the design. Its the Roccat Kone isnt it? With a better sensor and less buttons I take it. I read tons of stuff about the Kone being one of the bigger and heftier mice. I don't like the Mionix for that same reason + picking it up is a chore.

I would like to hear your impressions after you run with yours for a bit. I feel this battle won't be a short one for me.

Any news on that CM Spawn. Its pretty damn nice except that red color. I don't like that at all.
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post #25 of 44
I've spent a lot of time with finding the perfect gaming mouse, probably more than any normal person should. My girlfriend makes fun of me because I have a plethora of them piled up, and more that I've had but returned because they didn't meet my requirements.

I have very large hands, so finding a very comfortable mouse has been a formidable challenge.

As far as sensors go, I think the IME 3.0 has the best, but the rest of the mouse sucks. It's made of cheap plastic, and the buttons are flimsy, and the wheel is just plain awful. The shape however, is very good for larger hands.

The MX518 has a very good optical sensor, not as good as the IME 3.0 I've found, but good enough. The shape is decent, but I've had trouble historically with the palm grip mice that Logitech makes.

As far as FPS goes, sensor is most important, and those two mice in my opinion have by far the best price/performance ratio.

I personally like using the Logitech G9x however with one caveat: which is with neither of the included grips, but rather the personalized ID grip that I believe Logitech has since stopped manufacturing, unfortunately. The ID grip I found on Amazon. They sold a bunch of the last stock I think, but the thing makes the mouse much larger, and I can essentially palm the G9x where previously I could not. It makes a world of difference, and it has made it my personal favorite mouse.

However, the Avago sensor that it has apparently has a lot of issues, especially on cloth pads, which I like to use. I have a steelseries mat, and it's great. It has the right amount of control for me. the thing is I don't play CSS that much anymore (I used to) so it works for me. I've primarily been doing the MMOs, such as Eve and WoW, and comfort and build quality is my primary concern. For that the G9x fits the bill. If you have smaller hands, the included grips should work fine.
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post #26 of 44
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Are the WMO and IME 3 interchangeable basically? In terms of sensors. I know the IME has side buttons but the large size is probably going to make it a bit uncomfortable for me. It looks alot like the DA. Comfort on that was about a 6 or 7 for me.

I might just get a mouse for CS and other competitive shooters just in case. Then have a mouse for RTS and RPG play.
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post #27 of 44
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Originally Posted by Cpt.Jeff;13606790 
Are the WMO and IME 3 interchangeable basically? In terms of sensors. I know the IME has side buttons but the large size is probably going to make it a bit uncomfortable for me. It looks alot like the DA. Comfort on that was about a 6 or 7 for me.

I might just get a mouse for CS and other competitive shooters just in case. Then have a mouse for RTS and RPG play.

The Intellimouse Optical, Wheel Mouse Optical and the Intellimouse Explorer all share the same sensor.
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Component nazi-ism seems to rotate through the forum's various sub sections. Several months ago if you didn't have the ideal mechanical keyboard you had garbage.
    
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Originally Posted by RonindeBeatrice;13606970 
Component nazi-ism seems to rotate through the forum's various sub sections. Several months ago if you didn't have the ideal mechanical keyboard you had garbage.

There's a difference though, Mech keyboards are entirely preference. Most rubber dome keyboards have plenty of rollover for the five fingers of your non moused hand. Pressing the letter "O" works perfectly fine on both, how it happens is what the mech crowd is after.

Looking for a good mouse sensor is looking for a sensor that relays the movement of your hand without any other BS added. It isn't comparable IMO.
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Originally Posted by Derp;13607043 
There's a difference though, Mech keyboards are entirely preference. Most rubber dome keyboards have plenty of rollover for the five fingers of your non moused hand. Pressing the letter "O" works perfectly fine on both, how it happens is what the mech crowd is after.

Looking for a good mouse sensor is looking for a sensor that relays the movement of your hand without any other BS added. It isn't comparable IMO.

No, it's entirely comparable. I discern no foul play on the part of my G5 SE. It is with rubber domes, as it is crazy sensors, if you're accustomed to working with the tool, don't throw it out because somebody tells you that your sear's special isn't made of unobtainium.

It seems like many of you seemingly game with pro ambitions, otherwise I can't reconcile why you'd spend such a great deal of time digging up history's only non-crap mouse.

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