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I'm building my first gaming PC. I finally decided to go with nvidia instead of ati. And I narrowed my choices to two cards.

1. Asus engtx570 pcii
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-432-_-Product

(Edit)
2. Msi n570 gtx twin frozr III
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-582-_-Product


I'm favoring the Asus simply for its looks, but the specs on the Msi are higher. The core clock and memory clock are slightly higher on the msi. I am new to overclocking so I don't really know what these specs mean. Can someone please explain? Also, if I over clock my gpu (which I will) aren't these specs irrelevant?

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post #2 of 34
Neither,
Get the MSI Twin Frozr III..
Or the Asus.. The MSI TF II shares the same weak VRM issue as it is a reference board.
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the twin frozr have been a popular choice in gpu's mainly because of the temps. I too would recommend the MSI, Gimme a sec I will try and find a review for each card

EDIT: Any reason why you are going for the 570?
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The Twin Frozr II only uses the default 4 phase VRM, so it's not recommended to heavily overclock. The Asus is the way to go as it uses more power phases, just make sure you have room because it's 3 slots.





Asus is on top, reference on bottom. Another choice would be the Twin Frozr III but it's a bit pricier.
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I would go for the Asus one, especially if you want to overclock higher. The Asus board has an improved power phase design over the MSI board that let's it OC further.

The GTX 570's are dangerous overclockers though... Be careful about pumping too much voltage into them, even with the improved power phases!
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I'd much rather go for the Gigabyte model over all models mentioned through the replies.

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the twin frozr have been a popular choice in gpu's mainly because of the temps. I too would recommend the MSI, Gimme a sec I will try and find a review for each card

EDIT: Any reason why you are going for the 570?
Chose it because it was around my price range and I like the way the non ref. Cards look like


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Originally Posted by Dopamin3 View Post
The Twin Frozr II only uses the default 4 phase VRM, so it's not recommended to heavily overclock. The Asus is the way to go as it uses more power phases, just make sure you have room because it's 3 slots.





Asus is on top, reference on bottom. Another choice would be the Twin Frozr III but it's a bit pricier.
I'm completely new to this. I'm not sure what the pics mean. Can u please explain
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I'd much rather go for the Gigabyte model over all models mentioned through the replies.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-365-_-Product
Why? What's the point of a nice cooler when you can't even heavily overclock it without risk of it exploding. You can see Gigabyte puts a nice cooler on but it's still a reference card, so no point in buying one. The only options I would consider for the GTX 570 are the MSI Twin Frozr III, Asus DirectCu, and I think the Palit Sonic Platinum card uses more power phases.
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The GTX 570's are dangerous overclockers though... Be careful about pumping too much voltage into them, even with the improved power phases!


Non-reference 570s that have improved power phases are AMAZING overclockers, not dangerous in the slightest.

OP, avoid the TFII, but the TFIII and DCII are both amazing cards. I don't believe the difference between the two is enough to justify the increased cost of the TFIII, so I recommend the DCII, having it myself.
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Asus direct cu ii. I have one of those and one engtx 570. Direct cu II runs 20 degrees cooler at load, 60 while folding. If you got three slots get the direct cu II
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