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As bulldozer gets closer and closer now, i'm getting less and less excited for it. I definitely think i'll be sticking with my sandy bridge setup because I game. I don't think bulldozer will stand a chance in gaming.

But, I think it should offer some awesome rendering performance and awesome folding performance at a decent price.
I primarily game but I am not ruling out BD yet.
    
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I'm pretty sure JF-AMD has said that already, and most likely you wont be able to because you never can.
What about socket F Athlon FX chips?


This are FX-series again. Maybe it'll be possible once more. Who knows?
   
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I love how every AMD fanboy comes out swinging. Its like 360 vs. PS3 pointless war.

Please do me a favor and put your money where your mouth is fanboys... Go and buy a share of their stock at $8.39 so you can get relevant news as per what their company's goal is with this line of cpus, and see what their current business model is and what market they are looking to dominate.

AMDs CEO came out and said that they are aiming for best Cost vs Performance. He said he would rather sell 20 $150 cpus than 1 990x at $1000. This is AMDs game plan period. AMD has told their shareholders this aswell as the press. They have expressly stated multiple times that this is the market that they want to dominate.

Unfortunately fanboys need to call up AMD and tell the CEO and other board of directors members that they don't like their business model and that it should be to outrun Intel regardless the cost in a struggling economy....

I think people too often look at AMD and Intel as the same thing in the same race, the fact is they are two very different company's with different business models and strategy. Seems everyone wants to boil it down to AMD is trying to outrun Intel or vice versa when this isnt the case.

I can tell you right now that alot more people on this board have Phenom 2s and I7 SBs than 990Xs that should tell you something, especially on a enthusiast PC board. A company is going to make more sales and profit on something that the average user will purchase than making the end all kill all CPU in the market that the 1% of users even know about or can afford.
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I love how every AMD fanboy comes out swinging. Its like 360 vs. PS3 pointless war.

Please do me a favor and put your money where your mouth is fanboys... Go and buy a share of their stock at $8.39 so you can get relevant news as per what their company's goal is with this line of cpus, and see what their current business model is and what market they are looking to dominate.

AMDs CEO came out and said that they are aiming for best Cost vs Performance. He said he would rather sell 20 $150 cpus than 1 990x at $1000. This is AMDs game plan period. AMD has told their shareholders this aswell as the press. They have expressly stated multiple times that this is the market that they want to dominate.

Unfortunately fanboys need to call up AMD and tell the CEO and other board of directors members that they don't like their business model and that it should be to outrun Intel regardless the cost in a struggling economy....
That sounds like an awesome business model. I would rather stab myself in the face repeatedly then pay a grand for a CPU.
    
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That sounds like an awesome business model. I would rather stab myself in the face repeatedly then pay a grand for a CPU.
Am I the only one that lol'd?

As a matter of fact, I am going to sig that.
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AMDs CEO came out and said that they are aiming for best Cost vs Performance. He said he would rather sell 20 $150 cpus than 1 990x at $1000. This is AMDs game plan period. AMD has told their shareholders this aswell as the press. They have expressly stated multiple times that this is the market that they want to dominate.

Unfortunately fanboys need to call up AMD and tell the CEO and other board of directors members that they don't like their business model and that it should be to outrun Intel regardless the cost in a struggling economy....

I think people too often look at AMD and Intel as the same thing in the same race, the fact is they are two very different company's with different business models and strategy. Seems everyone wants to boil it down to AMD is trying to outrun Intel or vice versa when this isnt the case.

I can tell you right now that alot more people on this board have Phenom 2s and I7 SBs than 990Xs that should tell you something, especially on a enthusiast PC board. A company is going to make more sales and profit on something that the average user will purchase than making the end all kill all CPU in the market that the 1% of users even know about or can afford.
But at the same time you have to consider the need for a good flagship product otherwise you're just going to get destroyed. You need to at least have a decent offering in the flagship market or you'll just be overlooked.

I too would rather buy 20 $150 CPU's over 1 $1000 CPU (from a business standpoint in that having idle workers without workstations is unproductive). If I were just buying a system for myself I would buy a more higher end (but not flagship) chip just because I like nice things but just don't have the disposable income to buy flagship products.
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Am I the only one that lol'd?

As a matter of fact, I am going to sig that.
Haha okay.
    
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I love how every AMD fanboy comes out swinging. Its like 360 vs. PS3 pointless war.

AMDs CEO came out and said that they are aiming for best Cost vs Performance. He said he would rather sell 20 $150 cpus than 1 990x at $100.
Which AMD fanboys have come out swinging exactly? All i've seen is a discussion on BD architecture, with people attempting to stem misinfomation. I don't see any AMD fanboy posts saying "BD is gonna kill SB, blah blah blah".

As for AMD's business plan, what's your point? Tell us something we don't know, we're quite aware that AMD isn't looking to steal the performance crown. Make up some ground on Intel and produce a competitive product, yes, performance crown, Que Sera, Sera.
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As bulldozer gets closer and closer now, i'm getting less and less excited for it. I definitely think i'll be sticking with my sandy bridge setup because I game. I don't think bulldozer will stand a chance in gaming.

But, I think it should offer some awesome rendering performance and awesome folding performance at a decent price.
What do you mean it wont stand a chance in gaming... I think you're

I think these so called enthusiasts don't realize that gaming became nothing to worry about BEFORE THE 4.0GHZ cpu overclock.
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Yeah.... Considering that a C2D E6600 and 8800GT is still a pretty decent gaming rig I fail to see how BD, a newer processor with a totally new architecture can fail at gaming. Gaming performance may not be as great as it could be but it doesn't mean that you can't play modern games on it. I'm not going to doubt that where it will really shine is in scientific computing but stating that a BD proc for gaming will be a flop is just ignorant.
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