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As bulldozer gets closer and closer now, i'm getting less and less excited for it. I definitely think i'll be sticking with my sandy bridge setup because I game. I don't think bulldozer will stand a chance in gaming.

But, I think it should offer some awesome rendering performance and awesome folding performance at a decent price.
You know there's no gameplay difference between gaming at 95 FPS and 100 FPS, right?
    
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You know there's no gameplay difference between gaming at 95 FPS and 100 FPS, right?
There's not even a difference on gaming at 60 or 70 FPS.
   
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I think four cores should compete against four, but I guess I'm just crazy.
Price : Performance is all that matters as a consumer, how so an so gets said performance is irrelevant.

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There's not even a difference on gaming at 60 or 70 FPS.
I notice a difference... and there's definitely a difference when you get into heavier play.
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What about socket F Athlon FX chips?


This are FX-series again. Maybe it'll be possible once more. Who knows?
Dual-socket FX Athlons used a separate socket....

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I notice a difference... and there's definitely a difference when you get into heavier play.
How do you notice a difference? 60FPS is 60FPS...no matter what is on the screen
    
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How do you notice a difference? 60FPS is 60FPS...no matter what is on the screen
Because FPS is not a static number, if you look at most benchmark charts for games where people are getting 60fps avg. you'll notice the chart is all over the place. 70fps avg is just that little bit better, under heavy load it won't drop as low.
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Because FPS is not a static number, if you look at most benchmark charts for games where people are getting 60fps avg. you'll notice the chart is all over the place. 70fps avg is just that little bit better, under heavy load it won't drop as low.
hmmm...

I prefer V-Sync to be on every game.... getting 50,60.... even 100+ FPS gives me screen tearing... so I tend to cap my FPS at 20-24 to prevent that.... still play fine under all heavy conditions, no lag what so ever
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I'll take tearing over input delay and low fps any day.
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I know not much is known about this chipset yet at all, that having been said, I have a few questions:

1) The 8 core statistic on the higher end Zambezi FX chips...is this 8 REAL cores, or is it like Intel's Hyperthreading?

2) Is it possible to put multiple FX chips on a single board, or does AMD do things the same as Intel where consumer level stuff will not intercommunicate and you need the professional level chips (Xeon/Opteron) to run on multi proc boards?

I have zero loyalty to Intel whatsoever...in fact I'd likely be more inclined to go with AMD to spite them, ESPECIALLY on their more high end chips just to cast my dollar vote towards increasing the competition.

Just wanted to clear up those couple main questions I had if anyone knows anything yet about this.
1. 8 real cores

2. 2P in server only
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I'll take tearing over input delay and low fps any day.
Your choice to ruin your gameplay I find screen tearing ruins everything
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JF already said that if only a single core was used there would be no increased performance from it (outside of power gating). He only stated that the cores operate at 80% of what a full bulldozer core would.
No, I never said this. Please don't quote me unless you are going to do it correctly. And in context.



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I think four cores should compete against four, but I guess I'm just crazy.
You should compare one CPU to one CPU. Or compare two processors at the same price point.

Comparing on core count is not realistic because that is not how customers buy. They say things like "I have $300, what is the best CPU for my budget." I have never heard someone say "I need 4 cores, what is the best CPU for those 4 cores."
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