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Originally Posted by Syjeklye;13612199 
ESXi is free. You pay for support and more features beyond the basic free version of ESXi.

You can run ESXi 3.5 on old hardware (x86)
You can run ESXi 4.x on new hardware (x64)

There is a hardware compatibility list that you need to look at before deciding on which one you want.

Another option I would look into is Proxmox-VE. An even more free option with more features available.

While that is an option, there is no Vmotion capabilities and licensing is limited to 4 vcpu's per VM. If running any kind of virtualization cloud service, Vmotion is absolutely essential.
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Originally Posted by iCrap;13615140 
Have you tried VirtualBox? its free and literally walks you through step by step on making a VM

Yes, but how are the hot movement of VM's handled? can they be moved from one host to another in real time with no down time? How is the remote management of the VM's? How easy is it to create multiple network interfaces and network/ separate them?

Virtualbox is good for use on workstations, but not so much for large scale VM management.


OP Unless your friend is darn good with VM's, network administration, and has some very compelling reasons for people to choose him over Amazon's EC2, then he would just be setting himself up for failure. The only thing I can really think of him doing would be to offer a hosted solution, and P to V the clients servers and administer the VM's/VM cluster. Using VMware's tools he can bill the client for cycles used, and "hold their hand" as he virtualizes their servers.
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post #12 of 14
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OP Unless your friend is darn good with VM's, network administration, and has some very compelling reasons for people to choose him over Amazon's EC2, then he would just be setting himself up for failure.
This.

Unless you were MUCH cheaper than other offerings, and it was for a system that wasn't critical, there would be no way I'd choose you over a bigger firm. And as you're just starting out there will be no way you'd be able to be cheaper than the big boys - so you are really going to struggle to get any customers...
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While that is an option, there is no Vmotion capabilities and licensing is limited to 4 vcpu's per VM. If running any kind of virtualization cloud service, Vmotion is absolutely essential.



Yes, but how are the hot movement of VM's handled? can they be moved from one host to another in real time with no down time? How is the remote management of the VM's? How easy is it to create multiple network interfaces and network/ separate them?

Virtualbox is good for use on workstations, but not so much for large scale VM management.


OP Unless your friend is darn good with VM's, network administration, and has some very compelling reasons for people to choose him over Amazon's EC2, then he would just be setting himself up for failure. The only thing I can really think of him doing would be to offer a hosted solution, and P to V the clients servers and administer the VM's/VM cluster. Using VMware's tools he can bill the client for cycles used, and "hold their hand" as he virtualizes their servers.
I agree with your post. Proxmox is the option if he need HA and hot movement and management. It is capable to run things in a VM cluster. I have not messed with it much but it pretty much has the same features as VMware at a fraction of the cost. There is actually no cost unless you want some support.

I think the OP needs to find out what type of internet he has in his area before he ventures into what types of infrastructure he wants. You can make your own "datacenter" if you use individual connections from say, verizon fios business class. 35/35 is an amazing speed for people and it is not very expensive, comparatively.

If you throw everything into a datacenter that is totally equipped, it is going to run your fixed costs through the roof. datacenters are not cheap, at least not where I live, and most start you out at just 1mbps (terrible).
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Have you tried VirtualBox? its free and literally walks you through step by step on making a VM
I'm actually in the process of checking that out now.

Thanks for the insight everyone!
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