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Firstly, this is not for the sig rig. Now that's out of the way, I've got a XFX 9600GSO 348MB XXX Edition in this office PC (Old Review) at my family business. I've been thinking of upgrading it as when business is really quiet, I sometimes run a game to pass time. Today I noticed that the GPU temperatures are very hot. I thought to check this as last week I fitted an arctic freezer pro cooler into the system, which I had opened another topic about regarding an issue with shutdown not turning off the PC completely.

It's an Acer M5100 with AMD X2 7550, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 500W iCute modular PSU, and one rear case fan. The problem I had with fitting the new cpu cooler is that the PSU is top mounted, and due to the design of the stupid AMD backplate, I had to direct the fan at either the gpu or psu. I figured it would be wiser to direct it at the gpu.

Now I didn't expect that to make the gpu this hot. Idle temperature (driver temp in GPU-Z) is 77C and when I put it under load with Final Fantasy 14 (on super low settings, before anyone tells me the card is too weak... I'm more concerned about the idle temperature) it goes to 89C. I didn't see it hit 90C thankfully.

This card was previously used at home and I remember it always had similar temperatures to those in the review I linked above. So my question is, is the cpu fan affecting the idle temperature this much, or is there something wrong with the gpu? My cpu idles anywhere between 22C - 30C depending the room temperature which varies a lot depending on the heating.

Oh and I forgot to mention, fan % is around 42% at idle and just over 60% on load. Annnnd I was going to replace this with a Sapphire 4870 Silent Efficiency version. So I'm concerned about whether or not that card will be even hotter if its the cpu fan causing the problem.
Edited by Takayanagi-Phoenix - 5/23/11 at 3:57am
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Point it towards the PSU. OR get a new cooler and look at the temps. Nothing is wrong with the gpu. It is heating up when hot air is pushed at it. What did you expect?
    
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I didn't know what to expect, that's why I'm asking. I knew the GPU would be hotter but the idle temperature is a lot higher than it was before yet the load temperature hasn't changed as much. I'm not the kind of person who just shrugs and says meh, I like to ask questions and find out why that is the case.
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It's heating up the backside of the card - were the majority of the heat is dispersed by the VRMs/VRAM chips. So naturally, if the PCB itself is warmer, then anything trying to disperse heat holds more of it.
    
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Ok thanks for that explanation. I can't afford to buy another cooler at the moment, your suggestion to direct it at the PSU rather than GPU, is it advisable? I really wasn't sure, hence point it at the GPU.
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Ok thanks for that explanation. I can't afford to buy another cooler at the moment, your suggestion to direct it at the PSU rather than GPU, is it advisable? I really wasn't sure, hence point it at the GPU.
At least the heat will be evacuated out of the case.
    
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If you need to remove unused shims and leave the side of the case off.
 
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honestly 89 c is not that hot at load For a gpu, ( even a newer one) But 77c is fairly hot for idle, can you try pointing the fan at the psu ,then check temps, it may not be making the idle temps higher?

Maybe think about a new case with your gpu upgrade?
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At least the heat will be evacuated out of the case.
I'm a complete noob when it comes to fan flow, sadly. When I'm fitting the replacement GPU I'll change the CPU fan direction. Thanks for the tip.
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honestly 89 c is not that hot at load For a gpu, ( even a newer one) But 77c is fairly hot for idle, can you try pointing the fan at the psu ,then check temps, it may not be making the idle temps higher?

Maybe think about a new case with your gpu upgrade?
That would be ideal, the only problem is that the main reason there is so much time to kill and run a game is that business is super quiet for the past few months since recession stopping people spending has really kicked in. I don't really want to invest more money in it than I have to since I might be doing a completely different job soon. I was just curious about why the idle temperature was high. I did suspect it was the cpu fan. I'll change the fan direction at the end of this week probably.
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