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post #21 of 23
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I just want to point out, that when building a case, you have to consider what the end-user wants and what that means for the case itself.

You can only do so much with a computer case as far as internal design goes. It's all based around adequate spacing for the components installed into the case.

What you're looking for, would be extremely tall (or long, depending on placement vertically or horizontally). 2x 360 rads take up a LOT of space. If you want it thin, then you'd have to figure a way to mount the 5.25 bays, fans, motherboard, PSU, etc while trying to keep cable management, ease of installation, etc. still there.
I agree, it would be a big case with niche appeal. It would have to be a few inches higher than lian li with bottom chamber. Maybe a pedestal for second horizontal rad, and have it either way.

Playing with 10 calibrated dallas thermocouples, cal sensor on fluke, and 633 crystal fonz interface (initially for other testing), I OCD'ed a few weekends trying to find ideal performance/function/aesthetics/ease maintenance in just my case. With front 280 rad and top 360 both as intake and then exhaust out rear via 2x120/psu/vents, and with cpu running prime load (4.8C delta air to water max), I get ~2.7C better cpu and gpu temps, 4C better NB tems, and 2-3C better mobo temps versus using top rad as exhaust (front still intake). So better for both rads to be intake... until I decrease the fan speed to a quiet 1000rpms and also load gpu, now delta air to water is 11C, and although cpu/gpu temps are still 2.5-3C better with top rad as intake, the mobo, hard drive, NB now all suffer with 3C or so worse temps from rad heat dump inside case. Though granted gaming at delta 6-7C with typical fan speed is nearly a wash and fine either way.

So was just looking for future build as best of both worlds, rad with direct intake to fresh air, and exhaust somewhere other than mobo/hard drive (trying something new us much as OCD). Or just have enough rad to always keep delta air to water less than 5c, so not dumping too hot air inside case...or maybe I just take something for my OCD....and like you said then there is the equally important issue of not screwing up cable management, aesthetics, etc, though have to leave that to those with expertise in case software/design.

Thought about T10 with front and top rad as intake on psu side, though may be inch or 2 short, or TH10 if I decide to go that big of case and maybe make one more rear fan exhaust....luckily I have a while to decide which way to go
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Samsung 960 Pro 1TB OS Samsung 850 pro 1TB games D5, XT45 280 rad, Nemesis 280 rad,  Windows 10 64bit 
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Acer Predator XB271HU 144hz Seasonic Prime Titanium 850 Fractal Design R5 
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post #22 of 23
Well, honestly, there's a couple of premises I work on when I build a rig for myself or someone else. Now, I'm no physicist or scientist, but I do know a few things.
1. Heat rises.
2. Cold air intake from the bottom is ideal.

LEt's take a CaseLabs MH10, for example.
Mount to 360 rads on the bottom. That way the coolest air is coming directly into them.
Mount fans on the front as additional intake.
Mount fans on the top and on the back of the mobo tray, all as exhaust.

Not only will you be keeping cold air coming into the case, but it will be pushed out the top and the back of the case. I believe if you have more intake than outake you're creating quite a bit of static pressure which is always a good thing. It makes sure that the heat is going to flow out the top of the case instead of sitting around.
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Agreed. I really dislike that design. There are a number of problems with it. We're looking at a slimmer line late 2011 - early 2012. It will retain many of features of the MAGNUM series, but in a more conventional form factor.

EDIT: It would also be the basis for an mATX case.

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