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Originally Posted by dave12 View Post
If we find intelligent life a few thousand light years away, why would it matter. I get irritated waiting 30 minutes for a text message response, 10,000 years between messages....pffft.
This attitude actually hurts to hear.
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BOINC just sounds stupid...
... Fail...
    
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post #13 of 44
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Originally Posted by mike597 View Post
This attitude actually hurts to hear.
How so? We find intelligent life, what is done with the info. We can't even figure out ancient languages without a point of reference (rosetta stone), and that comes from fellow members of our species with similar experiences and thought patterns. What do we do with signals that come from an entirely different point of reference that cannot be interacted with within the time reference of all recorded history between interchanges? I'm all for discovery and science, but expending resources should have some semblance of tangibility attached.
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This saddens me. This is the same train of thought that says we should not go to Mars until we "fix our problems on Earth". We, as a society, gained so much in the way of tech and helping those on Earth from our trips to the moon. The tech we would gain from going to Mars would go far in fixing the problems on Earth.

The billion dollar satellite is just the end result of a billion dollars put into our economy, used to support the families of those people who worked on the project. It kept people off welfare. If things go well, the people who paid that billion dollars will recoup their money off the satellite. Win win. I suppose we could just take that billion from those who have it using taxes, then spend that money feeding people who don't have a job. I don't see that as a long term solution for humanity.

Let's pay people to find life. To advance our tech while trying to do so, and in doing so make everyone's life better.
I agree. People just scoff of frontier sciences that discover new things to just "fix problems on earth." However these new sciences should be just as valuable.

The MRI (magnetic resonance imaging) machines that medicine uses all the time in diagnosing patients was not discovered by people trying to fix problems on Earth. It was because of the curiosity of physicists/chemists trying to learn more about nuclear phenomena that happen in deep, outer space. The full name is NMRI (nuclear magnetic resonance imaging).

When we buy things at a store and the clerk scans the bar code or get lasik eye surgery, that was based off of laser research by guys like Einstein. Einstein did not study lasers just to remove tatoos or make UPCs to mail in for rebates.

Science should have value in of itself. Just because it is not apparently "useful" to some people does not mean it is not worthwhile. A lot of the applications of science that we take for granted was founded in curiosity of how the world and universe works.
Edited by Riou - 5/23/11 at 1:50pm
post #15 of 44
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Originally Posted by Ruckol1 View Post
I think folding came first
F@H came before BOINC, but some of the projects that are now under BOINC were independent DC Project long before F@H was even thought of.
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... Fail...
Consider these scenarios:

Girl: why is your computer on all the time?

Me: it's helping to cure cancer and alzheimers.

Girl: wow you're such a hero, can we have sex now?


Contrast with:

Girl: why is your computer on all the time?

Me: it's BOINCing.

Girl: Can you call me a cab?


Fail? Not in my book...
post #17 of 44
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Originally Posted by the_beast View Post
Consider these scenarios:

blah blah blah
Actually the conversation would go more like this..

Girl: Oh that was great! Hey I just noticed while I was picking my clothes off the floor your PC has been on all the time...whats up with that?

Me: Its folding.

Girl: Oh neat! My clothes could use some folding.

Me: Why are you still here?

Girl: You mean you lied when you said you loved me?

Me: Um...I have no recollection of that event.

Girl: *Cries* and runs into the living room. Sob..is this PC "folding" too...sob.

Me: No its BOINCing

Girl: Huh?

Me: You see...I have one PC that BOINCs and one that Folds. Basically they are both working on projects that will help humanity.

Girl: Oh you are such a sweet caring human being...Throws clothes back on floor......


tl;dr Quite simply BOINC is not promoted as well as Folding. If anyone took the time to do the research they would see that BOINC offers similar if not better Protein research.
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post #18 of 44
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My intention was not to start a war, but merely to get some opinions to see if there was a common reason as to why there were more folders.

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Originally Posted by PhillyOverclocker View Post
I think primarily because of the timing. If there were people who had invested in getting a ton of BOINC points first, then folding would not be as popular. People just don't want to give up their edge to start on something new.
I think this is true! I'm just a new folder and I already feel like this lol, can't imagine how the long time millionaire folders feel.

Personally another major point I think worth mentioning is promotion. Folding@Home is promoted on this forum (and others) constantly via things like 'postbits', competitions (Chimp Challenge; which is what got me to fold initially) and sig badges that say "Folding Millionaire" etc. These all have a major impact on participation, it definitely helped motivate me.

So maybe if this forum started promoting BOINC in a similar manner, more people would know about it (I mean I'v been on this forum everyday for 4 months now and I only just found out about it!), and maybe start using it.
post #19 of 44
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Originally Posted by the_beast View Post
*snip*


BOINC is just the client manager, they have many options for you to do some distributed computing.
Rosetta@Home is really big in the BOINC community for trying to research into the same things F@H is.

Mind you I do not want you to switch for obvious reasons, but I just wanted to clear it up for you.

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Originally Posted by hirolla888 View Post
So maybe if this forum started promoting BOINC in a similar manner, more people would know about it (I mean I'v been on this forum everyday for 4 months now and I only just found out about it!), and maybe start using it.
BOINC started to grow a little late on OCN, and since we plan to move to a new platform in the future it is easier to just setup the point system for that platform.
I expect a BOINC postbit eventually, but not anytime soon.
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I fold because there is a larger following and I know if I run into issues I can depend on the society to help me out (LiLChris, zodac, BlueDevil etc.)

I dont know any of the BOINC editiors, or what the project is for, so maybe if there was a more effective way to market?
    
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