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Originally Posted by TheReciever View Post
I fold because there is a larger following and I know if I run into issues I can depend on the society to help me out (LiLChris, zodac, BlueDevil etc.)

I dont know any of the BOINC editiors, or what the project is for, so maybe if there was a more effective way to market?
This.

I toyed with BOINC for a short time but there was no one to guide my efforts and very little in the way of support. To be fair, it was in its infancy back then.

THEN I found Folding... the rest is history.

Timing is the answer I think you seek...
post #22 of 44
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Originally Posted by franz View Post
Actually the conversation would go more like this.
Only in your dreams sunshine.


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tl;dr Quite simply BOINC is not promoted as well as Folding. If anyone took the time to do the research they would see that BOINC offers similar if not better Protein research.
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BOINC is just the client manager, they have many options for you to do some distributed computing.
I'm well aware of what BOINC is - my posts weren't exactly serious, but my point was. If you want a distributed computing project you need to appeal to the general public, who doesn't want to do research into things, who doesn't want to bother setting things up, who isn't the kind of computer hardware enthusiast geek that you find on here. The fact that the biggest contributor to folding is 'anonymous' backs this up - people get persuaded to do something that make humanity better, and they'll do it but only if it's easy and if it sounds reasonable. Folding, with it's catchy name and obvious purpose, fits the bill nicely to appeal to the general public. BOINC might appeal to the geeks, but they aren't who you need for distributed computing. The whole point of a distributed project is to get as many individuals as possible performing calculations on whatever they have - the powerhouse systems may grab the headlines, but it's the millions of tiny systems that provide the real power to the project.

In short, if it had a better name and a little clearer direction, then might be more mainstream. But, in my opinion, by promoting the platform as much as they promote the research and by having the strange name, they put people off.

Regarding folding being around longer - I'm not sure it was around that much longer than some of the competition. SETI etc has been around for years, as has whichever one it is that hunts for massive prime numbers (forget the name - it's been 10 years at least since I looked at it - but if I had to bet I believe that's been around longer than Folding. They even offer(ed?) cash prizes). But I think people can relate to medical research much more easily than analyzing space signals or hunting for big numbers that really only provide mechanisms for better cryptography for big business and governments.

Just my
post #23 of 44
So that would mean that if I put my computer outside, shout to everyone it's folding girls would be all over me. nah...
post #24 of 44
Most of the projects for Boinic are trivial or useless.

Finding a cure for something that is one of the leading caises of death is slightly more important.
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If you want a distributed computing project you need to appeal to the general public, who doesn't want to do research into things, who doesn't want to bother setting things up, who isn't the kind of computer hardware enthusiast geek that you find on here.
In all honesty if you get your average Joe out in the street and ask them to setup SMP/GPU to fold they probably would never get it done. OCN is filled with what you call "geeks" and have a really hard time setting all these clients up so I really doubt they targeted the regular folks.
Before v7 went into beta I can honestly say the setup was 10x easier using the BOINC client for distributed computing, but now its getting easier for the masses with v7 which is exactly the goal they have in mind.


Anyways this isn't the section nor my place in this forum to really keep talking about BOINC and I rather let the editor chime in if he sees the thread.
(doubtful being in the F@H section)


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Most of the projects for Boinic are trivial or useless.
I agree, but BOINC doesn't do anything but hold the projects...
They have some great projects over there that I wish I can contribute to but I do not have the resources to do two things at once.




But I am glad you all feel strong about F@H, if you didn't then we wouldn't be promoting and doing our jobs correctly on this forum.
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post #26 of 44
I think that F@H hits home for many people as most people know someone who has or has had cancer.

Ideally, however, F@H would just be another project running in the BOINC system. I believe it has been tried in the past but I'm not 100% sure. Either way, there is good to be done in both projects (meaning F@H and many of the BOINC projects), that is for sure.
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BOINC has multiple useless choices for their distributed computing projects, such as SETI@Home. All in all, F@H is more rewarding. We need to fix our problems on Earth before we try looking for aliens.
all that work to save ourselves on earth will all be in vain if we don't find and destroy the aliens before they find and destroy us first
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post #28 of 44
BOINC is easier to setup for someone who never worked with it, f@h is a bit harder. Ideally, f@h should be integrated in boinc to contract more folders who think f@h installation requires an entire day.
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all that work to save ourselves on earth will all be in vain if we don't find and destroy the aliens before they find and destroy us first
That's not really a good argument at all.
    
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I was wondering why it wasn't so popular, as well. It is something that interests me and I'd like to give it a go sometime. I just never seem to make time to sit down and look into it more.
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