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I don't know why the powerhungry 470 gets so much love when the 560ti is faster by default, and requires a whole lot less power.

http://www.hwcompare.com/8868/geforc...ce-gtx-560-ti/
post #22 of 45
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Originally Posted by Deluxe View Post
I don't know why the powerhungry 470 gets so much love when the 560ti is faster by default, and requires a whole lot less power.

http://www.hwcompare.com/8868/geforc...ce-gtx-560-ti/
I'm wondering that too, seems many in this thread haven't really looked at the benches.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/330?vs=311
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I'm wondering that too, seems many in this thread haven't really looked at the benches.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/330?vs=311
I see a lot of 470 owners posting, I can't help but think they're a bit too biased
post #24 of 45
If u like a hot,inefficient,power hungry card pick a 470,otherwise pick a 560Ti,just a 5870 can own a 470 big timeHate me if u will,I am just telling TS the truth
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gtx 560ti. msi twinfrozr. Oc to 1ghz on core. Still runs cooler than the gtx 470. and consumes less power. hmmmm which one?
    
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If u like a hot,inefficient,power hungry card pick a 470,otherwise pick a 560Ti,just a 5870 can own a 470 big timeHate me if u will,I am just telling TS the truth
Actually in DX10 my 470s are pretty much even with 5870s, in DX11 my 470s obviously walk away from 5870s.

I didn't buy an i5-2500k and overclock it with the stock cooler, there seems to be that sort of thought process with GPUs however.

My 470s run cooler than any air cooled 560s on the market. They also use more power, however not much more.

Hes also getting a 700 watt PSU so there is no question he will have enough "power" to run a 470 (the PSU is overkill btw).


As for the 560ti being faster than a 470, I think we can put that to rest.

560 ti SLI


470 SLI



I'm not saying 470s are perfect, it does use more power for instance. However to rip on a gpu because the stock cooling is less than amazing is pretty dumb, especially when nobody would say a i5-2500k is a bad cpu because it can only do 4.3Ghz on the stock cooler.
    
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Actually in DX10 my 470s are pretty much even with 5870s, in DX11 my 470s obviously walk away from 5870s.

I didn't buy an i5-2500k and overclock it with the stock cooler, there seems to be that sort of thought process with GPUs however.

My 470s run cooler than any air cooled 560s on the market. They also use more power, however not much more.

Hes also getting a 700 watt PSU so there is no question he will have enough "power" to run a 470 (the PSU is overkill btw).


As for the 560ti being faster than a 470, I think we can put that to rest.


I'm not saying 470s are perfect, it does use more power for instance. However to rip on a gpu because the stock cooling is less than amazing is pretty dumb, especially when nobody would say a i5-2500k is a bad cpu because it can only do 4.3Ghz on the stock cooler.
First of all, in single card comparisons with both cards at stock the 560 Ti is most definitely faster. That's a fact. Both overclocked to their maximum potential, about the same performance. So we must look at other factors to determine the winner. The 560 Ti is the winner in other categories like cooling and power consumption.

There is also a reason stock cooling is much more relevant on a GPU - very very few people ever use aftermarket cooling on them. I would argue that the performance of stock cooling is an incredibly relevant point when comparing GPUs and your analogy to CPU cooling is incredibly off base.
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Thats funny because most cards on the market right now come with aftermarket cooling.

Secondly this is overclock.net, you can keep your "stock" comparisons.

They are clearly not the same when both are overclocked.


Lets keep this simple and basic. The stock nvidia gpu cooling solution for 470s was bad. The 470 gpu was not.

Do you know another video card that will do 30-50% overclocks at this level of performance? If so please point it out.

That said since both gpus are the same price according to the op it comes down to preference, performance, or "other". Typically the 470s are going to run $30 or $40 less than a 560, so it makes the choice a lot easier for the 470. However if I had a top end cpu, I'd go for the faster of the two gpus, but thats just me. I value performance more than anything else you can add on to that list.
    
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Thats funny because most cards on the market right now come with aftermarket cooling.

Secondly this is overclock.net, you can keep your "stock" comparisons.

They are clearly not the same when both are overclocked.


Lets keep this simple and basic. The stock nvidia gpu cooling solution for 470s was bad. The 470 gpu was not.

Do you know another video card that will do 30-50% overclocks at this level of performance? If so please point it out.

That said since both gpus are the same price according to the op it comes down to preference, performance, or "other". Typically the 470s are going to run $30 or $40 less than a 560, so it makes the choice a lot easier for the 470. However if I had a top end cpu, I'd go for the faster of the two gpus, but thats just me. I value performance more than anything else you can add on to that list.
Aftermarket cooling as in taking off the stock cooler and replacing it with another form of cooling, exactly like the cpu analogy you mentioned. How many people do that? Very very few, like I said.

Just because this is OCN doesn't mean everyone overclocks. Especially as this is for a friend, I would imagine overclocking would be conservative. You've jumped to blindly defend your card without considering the OPs needs.

Nonetheless, show me a comparison between a single, fully overclocked 560 Ti and a single, fully overclocked 470. Then we can talk performance.
Edited by Iceman23 - 5/24/11 at 10:12am
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470 is probably faster but it's worth it to get the 560 since it's much cooler and smaller and requires less power
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