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Not always for the reasons you think but I get what you guys are trying to say. Now can this thread get back on topic please? It was very good up until the last page or so.
I thought my statement had truth to it
Edited by Benny99 - 5/24/11 at 5:50pm
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The deciding factor for me was the Screen Size, although it is large it isn't too unbearable...of corse I am still waiting for the Samsung Galaxy S 2 before I change from the Blackberry Curve. The other features I like is the wrap to text and ability to view a normal webpage.

This may help http://www.smartphoneenvy.com/featur...g-galaxy-s-ii/ and what pushed me over the edge on what to get a droid or an iPhone4. There are other factors that also pushed me towards the droid specifically the speed, I can't stand browsing on my BB especially after using my Sig Rig. The other main factor is flash although I could probably be fine without it for now... The thing I am not entirely sure about on the droid is if it can play mp3's or has something like itunes, tho I have never bought any music or anything from Apple always just ripped my CD's and Audio Books or got the them from audible.com
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This. You said this isn't a versus thread, but that's what you've turned it into.

~ Sent from my Gingerooted DROID X ~
I never said this isn't a versus thread because that's exactly what it is. What I did say is I won't be listing all of the advantages of iPhone because I already know them, all of the disadvantages of Android because that's naturally not going to come out in this thread, and it isn't about WP7 at all as far as the OP goes.

Gotta love people that read a few posts and then think they're "informed" enough to have a useless opinion.

Aaaaanyway - most of the stuff since I last posted is pretty much a repeat from before. The stuff in the OP are pretty much the over-arching differences. Everything else about making it your own flavor with ROMs or whatever is just cosmetic and not fundamental differences in how and where information is presented to you.

When people turn on their phone, they want the time, date, weather, notifications, email, SMS, Twitter (when applicable), etc., etc. This can easily be done on both. Everything else is just making it into a piece of art. Android beats the iPhone in making it look exactly the way you want, but the iPhone allows more customization when Jailbroken than many Android users care to know about. Can we have a specific box 3 pixels from the left side and 17 pixels from the top? No. Can I change the font size from 7 to 9 of a specific word in a specific application? No. Do I honestly care about either? Nope.

I very rarely watch movies on my phone. If I do, they're either through Netflix or were transcoded from the original format anyway to save size. Again, a non-issue for me.

Cydia has emulators and a whole host of other stuff as well.

What it boils down to for me as far as usability is flash, Google Maps Nav, and what Tasker can do. The iPhone had flash with "Frash" up until the last firmware update, which broke it. It should be back soon, but it's still a major downside to have its support be so fickle. But - the only site where I used flash was really to watch new stuff at Newgrounds. So not a big loss really for me. I'm still definitely an advocate for official flash support though.

So when all is said and done, here are the things I'm weighing out:

iPhone:
- Gaming is better. I've played on the iPhone a while, and I've browsed Android market to see what they offer. I know the differences. Both have emulators.
- Very high resell value. You make at least $1-200 profit after selling it two years later.

Android:
- Full flash
- Google nav is better than Navigon is some ways
-Tasker functionality
- Text input. Swype and other methods are not available on the iPhone.

It's about equal for me right now. Ive been on several road trips over the last few years with the iPhone and would love the nav. We'll see what the next honeycomb and iOS have in store cause that's when I plan on purchasing.

Like I also said in a previous post, it seems like people get so swept into talking about what their phone can do, something tells me they spend more time "tinkering" with it than actually using it. And as I also said, it's quite evident by the generalizations that most of the superior Android race (I'm not an Apple fanboy, that just seems to be their extremist mindset) are ignorant to what the iPhone is capable of.

Anyway, enough of the shenanigans. Anyone else have something specific?
Edited by Kaldari - 5/24/11 at 8:03pm
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Actually, getting different ROMs offers more than just cosmetic differences. For example, CyanogenMod developers put multiple tweaks to the system for far better speed and stability for less bloat, as well as unlock some features such as overclocking and enabling/disabling JIT. MIUI offers a far different implementation of the system that it largely emulates iOS' own settings and toggles.

And if you want to jump into Android's camp, I really suggest waiting for 2.4 Ice Cream Sandwich, which Google promises to be the version that will unify the Android ecosystem and will be prevalent in future phones and tablets. As is with its Google I/O conference, Google hopes to provide mandatory updates to the latest possible Android flavor across all devices within 18 months of the devices' introduction. This will hopefully make the OS more integrated.

What Google has in store for Android:

- NFC for a more secure transmission of critical data across devices; tap phones to share info quickly. Also, NFC stickers will be programmable to perform specific tasks like provide a special link, or kick-start a Bluetooth connection.
- Android@Home will enable Android devices act as the hub for future electronics and appliances - control every aspect of your home from lights, to multimedia systems. Another possibility is the integration with future kiosks and equipment for easier communication.
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Actually, getting different ROMs offers more than just cosmetic differences. For example, CyanogenMod developers put multiple tweaks to the system for far better speed and stability for less bloat, as well as unlock some features such as overclocking and enabling/disabling JIT. MIUI offers a far different implementation of the system that it largely emulates iOS' own settings and toggles.

And if you want to jump into Android's camp, I really suggest waiting for 2.4 Ice Cream Sandwich, which Google promises to be the version that will unify the Android ecosystem and will be prevalent in future phones and tablets. As is with its Google I/O conference, Google hopes to provide mandatory updates to the latest possible Android flavor across all devices within 18 months of the devices' introduction. This will hopefully make the OS more integrated.

What Google has in store for Android:

- NFC for a more secure transmission of critical data across devices; tap phones to share info quickly. Also, NFC stickers will be programmable to perform specific tasks like provide a special link, or kick-start a Bluetooth connection.
- Android@Home will enable Android devices act as the hub for future electronics and appliances - control every aspect of your home from lights, to multimedia systems. Another possibility is the integration with future kiosks and equipment for easier communication.
Good stuff. Is it really called Ice Cream Sandwich?

As far as better speed and stability with less bloat, those are again non-issues. Everything runs smoothly, is stable, and there's zero bloat with iOS. That may be a plus for Android users, but it isn't a switch factor for us. The ability to overclock pretty much stands under the same umbrella.

The Android@Home thing sounds cool.

Looking forward to reading about it.
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Safari, I wasn't aware there was a good alternative now?
Yes, there are quite a few third-party browsers now. Mercury is definitely the best though, beating Opera and the others. Dolphin was mentioned before for Android, and it sounds pretty similar to that.
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I like Android because of the permissions system and easy access of important features. As Android lets applications 'ask' to run in the background, there are a far wider range of applications that have been and can be built that run in the background, persistently and really change your user experience. For example, what if you wanted to have your wifi turned off when you reached a gps location? What if you wanted an application to download something in the background? Or hey-- what if you wanted to have two applications that communicated with each other, natively and smoothly-- your music player communicating with your schedule, hell, whatever.

Further, unlike iOS, many Android Oses collect together major usability features (ring tone, wifi, bluetooth, 3G, rotation) in one easy swipe accessible drop down menu.
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Further, unlike iOS, many Android Oses collect together major usability features (ring tone, wifi, bluetooth, 3G, rotation) in one easy swipe accessible drop down menu.
This is done on iOS with SBSettings. You can also add buttons for numerous other things. Mine drops down when I hold the home button for 1 second, but you can set it to any other press, swipe, or series of buttons with Activator.
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I like Android because of the permissions system and easy access of important features. As Android lets applications 'ask' to run in the background, there are a far wider range of applications that have been and can be built that run in the background, persistently and really change your user experience. For example, what if you wanted to have your wifi turned off when you reached a gps location? What if you wanted an application to download something in the background? Or hey-- what if you wanted to have two applications that communicated with each other, natively and smoothly-- your music player communicating with your schedule, hell, whatever.
Is that done with Tasker? I forgot to add that into my list a couple posts ago for Android. That's something I really like too.
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^ Yeah, Tasker and other related apps enable such location-defined toggles. Very intuitive for people who want things done in specific areas.
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I can do my thesis with it because Android has an easy to use Unity3d SDK to port augmented reality applications to the phone.

Other than that, it is a phone, and a good one at that. Full flash support is also cool too.
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Just gonna leave these here... dunno if it's already been posted but I'm not checkin 16 pages

http://lifehacker.com/5801862/top-10...ne-doesnt-have

http://lifehacker.com/5804230/top-10...utdoes-android
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