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Would i see much of a difference switching to this ASUS card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-013-_-Product) over my onboard realtek in sig rig?

This is my current setup:
460W JVC MX-GT88 w/8in subs
Altec-Lansing BASS Expressionist

3.5mm analog plugs

Hooked up in a quadrophonic setup.
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Definitely. There is a night and day difference between onboard and a dedicated.

You could get something as cheap as an Asus Xonar DG and still notice a difference.
Edited by thisischuck01 - 5/23/11 at 4:37pm
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post #3 of 11
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Originally Posted by thisischuck01 View Post
Definitely. The difference between onboard and a dedicated soundcard is night and day.
This

The difference between onboard and any sound card (including budget ones like the DS) is huge.

Personally I cannot use onboard ever again.
I tried, I can't. I just can't.
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If your using a analog connection yes. Digital it doesnt matter. Onboards are so crap that even the anti malware scanners detects its drivers as malware and remove them
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Alright, I think you guys have me convinced. I've never experienced anything but onboard so I'm excited/curious.

Could you somehow explain how it's better? I mean obviously it "sounds" better, but what exactly is better?
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Just make sure you buy from someplace where you can return it. Not even the STX made a difference for me at proper settings, but I had different speakers. They were 40$ JVC HA-RX700s--headphones.
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post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by thisischuck01 View Post
Definitely. There is a night and day difference between onboard and a dedicated.

You could get something as cheap as an Asus Xonar DG and still notice a difference.
agreed but you can also consider the Xonard DX or the PCI version the D1 but those are 100$ , or as mentioned by thisischuck01 the cheap yet good DG will make noticeable difference also

about the difference here`s a link that might help understanding (he used DX):
http://www.overclock.net/sound-cards...ound-card.html
    
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Alright, I think you guys have me convinced. I've never experienced anything but onboard so I'm excited/curious.

Could you somehow explain how it's better? I mean obviously it "sounds" better, but what exactly is better?
ok lets make it simple. Lets just take the DACs.

Now with 16bit content like music the dynamic range will be 96 (16*6)
With 24bit 144 (24*6)

Now the onboard got a dac with a snr of 98 and the Dg one of a 108.

What this means when you go past 16bit noise will be added to the signal. 6db per bit. Where with the dg it will start adding noise to the signal starting at 18bit. So if you play 24bit content which got a dynamic range of 144db 56db of noise will be added with a onboard where 36db will be added with the dg. Plus the dg got a dolby amp which onboard dont have. So it cant emulate positional audio like the dg can. That is some of the factors i mentioned up there. You got to add the software solutions that helps the card are more researched and tuned than the realtek codecs coming with the onboards drivers aswell as the design around the dac is much more tuned for audio than onboard ones coz onboard was just thrown on it where there is space with minimum cost and not with the mindset how it will influence the performance of the dac.
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Alright, I think you guys have me convinced. I've never experienced anything but onboard so I'm excited/curious.

Could you somehow explain how it's better? I mean obviously it "sounds" better, but what exactly is better?
First, there is the raw data that is unprocessed. In onboard audio, that data is processed by the CPU and then comes out of the 3.5mm analog.

With a sound card, that raw unprocessed data is processed by a dedicated sound card. With the high quality components on a sound card, you get more clarity, less noise, better quality (24-bit 192KHz), and software processing technologies like Dolby Headphone and virtual surround.
post #10 of 11
If I were you, I'd go for the Xonar DS. I downgraded from the STX and noticed no audible difference in sound clarity (I had the STX for a good month and a half.)

You can even grab one as I did from eBay for $37 shipped (manufacturer refurbished)

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