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See, the difference here is that BF2 and BF3, while both "modern warfare" settings, are using different engines. Completely different engines, from the ground up. Meanwhile, Activision are making the same game (again) with the exact same engine used in the first 2 (or 3-4 if you want to count BO, etc).

Therefore it (BF3) is going to be a different game regardless of similar settings. We don't have to take anyone's word for it. Frostbite 2 is wildly different to Refractor 2.

You're trying to fault DICE for something they might possibly (however unlikely) do, while everyone else is faulting Activision for something they've already done. ..Several times.

I never said it wasn't going to be different, but I'm going to laugh if Dice goes the same route even though it would be devastating to the PC community. And I will fault them if they follow the same path which is why I started with BF3 and made the rehashing reference, I never mentioned BF2...which apparently you missed. And yes, activision's crap is ridiculous, but they'll get away it with several more times since they're marketing is amazing for the series and people love it.

All of you BF guys are getting testy when anyone mentions BF3 in a non savior like way. Also almost everyone knows the differences between BF and COD, so stop spelling it out to justify your bashing. I don't like COD either but bashing it is pointless.
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Sad to see that everything looks heavily scripted, but I guess that's to be expected from a CoD game. I never really played them for the story anyway.

It's pretty easy to tell that this trailer was aimed at BF3. It's really similar, especially with those "boww" sounds.

Withholding judgment until I see some real gameplay videos. Specifically multiplayer.
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Sad to see that everything looks heavily scripted, but I guess that's to be expected from a CoD game. I never really played them for the story anyway.

It's pretty easy to tell that this trailer was aimed at BF3. It's really similar, especially with those "boww" sounds.

Withholding judgment until I see some real gameplay videos. Specifically multiplayer.
I as well noticed the obviously scripted work like the building collapse and the train action. A friend of mine believes MW3 is being built on Frostbite 2. :facepalm:
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to be fair. ALL of CODs singleplayer has been heavily scripted, same goes for BC2, and BF3 singleplayer also appears scripted, that building falling in both games is scripted.

MW3 is trying to be an action movie, where you play Tom cruise, or bruce willis, bf3 is trying to bring a more realistic military approach, like blackhawk down, or other military movies. Niether is any more correct than the other.

graphically speaking bf3 is leagues ahead of mw3 though. just watching that trailer for mw3 shows its age, the smoke is terrible, and buildings and vehicles are extremely low poly, and everything seems to be designed with right angles, lacking the correct amount of polys to render the scene realistically.
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MW3 is trying to be an action movie, where you play Tom cruise, or bruce willis, bf3 is trying to bring a more realistic military approach, like blackhawk down, or other military movies. Niether is any more correct than the other.
This is the best description in this thread yet.

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graphically speaking bf3 is leagues ahead of mw3 though. just watching that trailer for mw3 shows its age, the smoke is terrible, and buildings and vehicles are extremely low poly, and everything seems to be designed with right angles, lacking the correct amount of polys to render the scene realistically.
Yeah graphically they are miles apart, BF3's graphics are so far ahead of COD's it's actually sad. As for gameplay, both will be on different ends of the spectrum. Each style appeals to to people differently.
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Lol @ BF vs CoD...
Both look like amusing games, so I'll give them both a try.

Seriously, whats with the "Oh, you prefer this game over that game, that's so wrong, now I must rage on you"-attitude a lot of people suffer from?
Exactly. I agreed with all of this entirely, and Battlefield is what got me into PC gaming to begin with which I love entirely. But the hate and comparisons has got me sick of BF.

People complain that CoD has changed since CoD 1, United Offense, and CoD2. I could argue that BF has changed drastically since BF1942 and BF2. IMO - in a way more negative way too.

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Really? You don't get why they are trying to make it look like BF3? Lol.
See, the difference here is that BF2 and BF3, while both "modern warfare" settings, are using different engines. Completely different engines, from the ground up. Meanwhile, Activision are making the same game (again) with the exact same engine used in the first 2 (or 3-4 if you want to count BO, etc).

Therefore it (BF3) is going to be a different game regardless of similar settings. We don't have to take anyone's word for it. Frostbite 2 is wildly different to Refractor 2.

You're trying to fault DICE for something they might possibly (however unlikely) do, while everyone else is faulting Activision for something they've already done. ..Several times.
But why does the engine in use, whether reused or not, make such a big difference. Most video game sequels actually do the same thing. Hell, Halo uses the EXACT same one from Halo 2 up till ODST. Reach was the only upgrade and that was mostly visuals anyway.

BF as a franchise is a totally different game compared to CoD. Totally different gameplay to top the cake off too. These comments are beginning to get absurd. The only reason CoD gets this kind of bad rep from people is because of it's following after MW2's PC fiasco.
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I now understand COD MW series. It's an attempt at movie making. They don't have the money to make a movie, so they create games that are basically a movie. That's why there so incredible to play/watch the first time around (the story) but boring after the second time because it's so predictable.

I say it'll sell 500 million copies/pirated 200 million more/resold on ebay 450 million times. All this within the first 6 months of the game being released.
     
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Holy scripted events Batman! Seriously, not interested. At all. I really really really wish they'd go back and make a solid game like COD2. That's still one of my favorite games of all time. Ever since then.... ugh....
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Exactly. I agreed with all of this entirely, and Battlefield is what got me into PC gaming to begin with which I love entirely. But the hate and comparisons has got me sick of BF.

People complain that CoD has changed since CoD 1, United Offense, and CoD2. I could argue that BF has changed drastically since BF1942 and BF2. IMO - in a way more negative way too.



But why does the engine in use, whether reused or not, make such a big difference. Most video game sequels actually do the same thing. Hell, Halo uses the EXACT same one from Halo 2 up till ODST. Reach was the only upgrade and that was mostly visuals anyway.

BF as a franchise is a totally different game compared to CoD. Totally different gameplay to top the cake off too. These comments are beginning to get absurd. The only reason CoD gets this kind of bad rep from people is because of it's following after MW2's PC fiasco.
The engine is based on way outdated tech, thats why. They could pull off much better graphics and gameplay with a new engine, but they arent.

Take a look at killzone and some other releases, even crysis 2. Because they tech they are building their engine around is so old, and the fact that they keep tacking on more and more features, which isnt as efficient as what a newer engine with all those features can produce.

Activision talks about CoD, like it is a leading franchise, that it pushes the boundries of what gaming is capable, yet they refuse to actuall follow through with that. They are fine with charging a premium for their game, and outrageous prices on their DLC when the game they are delivering is of merely average quality for the times.

activision is happy spending 100 million on marketting, when alot of that could be going to building an engine capable of everything they want or ever want, and to be creating a class leading product that takes gaming to new heights, with unparalled customization, and maps, etc. Instead we get blops, which was and could still be unplayable on PC and ps3. Why exactly, its the same engine that has been used on those systems for over 6 years now.
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Oh wow, that new engine looks beautiful!

I especially enjoyed the redone animations, I can't wait!
Uh, same engine
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