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Same engine since COD 2 eh...
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What a terrible trailer and a terrible looking game. "New" and "cool" stuff, eh?..
    
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I never said it wasn't going to be different, but I'm going to laugh if Dice goes the same route even though it would be devastating to the PC community. And I will fault them if they follow the same path which is why I started with BF3 and made the rehashing reference, I never mentioned BF2...which apparently you missed. And yes, activision's crap is ridiculous, but they'll get away it with several more times since they're marketing is amazing for the series and people love it.

All of you BF guys are getting testy when anyone mentions BF3 in a non savior like way. Also almost everyone knows the differences between BF and COD, so stop spelling it out to justify your bashing. I don't like COD either but bashing it is pointless.
You were clearly alluding to the 'fact' DICE will re-use the FB 2 engine for game after game, and talking down BF3 for this reason. DICE haven't been guilty of this in the past, and Activision has. That's why everyone complains.

You can bet most of us will be right along beside you faulting them if they (DICE) re-hash time after time. But so far they haven't - so why are you even mentioning it? THAT was my point the first time. You can't fault a company for something they might do (especially when it's unlikely). "What ifs" have no relevance here.

I did get a kick out of "all you BF guys.." Defensive much?

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But why does the engine in use, whether reused or not, make such a big difference. Most video game sequels actually do the same thing. Hell, Halo uses the EXACT same one from Halo 2 up till ODST. Reach was the only upgrade and that was mostly visuals anyway.

BF as a franchise is a totally different game compared to CoD. Totally different gameplay to top the cake off too. These comments are beginning to get absurd. The only reason CoD gets this kind of bad rep from people is because of it's following after MW2's PC fiasco.
Uh.. because technology has come a long way since id tech 3? Vhati explains it quite well..

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The engine is based on way outdated tech, thats why. They could pull off much better graphics and gameplay with a new engine, but they arent.

Take a look at killzone and some other releases, even crysis 2. Because they tech they are building their engine around is so old, and the fact that they keep tacking on more and more features, which isnt as efficient as what a newer engine with all those features can produce.

Activision talks about CoD, like it is a leading franchise, that it pushes the boundries of what gaming is capable, yet they refuse to actuall follow through with that. They are fine with charging a premium for their game, and outrageous prices on their DLC when the game they are delivering is of merely average quality for the times.

You guys can say CoD is a "completely different game" and to some extent, I agree, CoD and BF play quite differently. However, they're both FPS, both with a modern setting, and are vying for similar markets. It's natural they will be compared. CoD deserves it's bad rep - it's "been there, done that" all over again.
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Looks interesting. I always like the singleplayer of cod games, not so much the multi.
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You were clearly alluding to the 'fact' DICE will re-use the FB 2 engine for game after game, and talking down BF3 for this reason. DICE haven't been guilty of this in the past, and Activision has. That's why everyone complains.

You can bet most of us will be right along beside you faulting them if they (DICE) re-hash time after time. But so far they haven't - so why are you even mentioning it? THAT was my point the first time. You can't fault a company for something they might do (especially when it's unlikely). "What ifs" have no relevance here.

I did get a kick out of "all you BF guys.." Defensive much?
I was just stating what if they did do that? What would all the naysayers do then? I was just trying to make the point that it's silly to think that one company wouldn't do the same to make major profits is all. Not defensive at all by the way, it was just a clear observation, if you'd read through the whole thread you know exactly why I said it, don't play dumb.
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looks good
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I was just stating what if they did do that? What would all the naysayers do then? I was just trying to make the point that it's silly to think that one company wouldn't do the same to make major profits is all. Not defensive at all by the way, it was just a clear observation, if you'd read through the whole thread you know exactly why I said it, don't play dumb.
actually, some developers have a vision for their product. A dream, which is where good games come from. Not from a corporate philosophy of milking a franchise til its dead.

Battlefield 3 could have been released many years ago, but they didnt because they couldnt do what they wanted to with it.
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actually, some developers have a vision for their product. A dream, which is where good games come from. Not from a corporate philosophy of milking a franchise til its dead.
But wasn't the COD series like that once?
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Battlefield 3 could have been released many years ago, but they didnt because they couldnt do what they wanted to with it.
I am glad that they waited to release it so they could fully utilize new technologies, and I hope that they stay with a greater vision of gaming but no one will know until BF3 is released and on the market for awhile.
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Meh im sick of spending $70-90 bucks every year for COD and the stupid add on maps
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actually, some developers have a vision for their product. A dream, which is where good games come from. Not from a corporate philosophy of milking a franchise til its dead.

Battlefield 3 could have been released many years ago, but they didnt because they couldnt do what they wanted to with it.
I like you. Your high level of common sense is overwhelming.

DICE could have released BF3 a year after BF2 if they had really wanted to milk the franchise, just like Valve released L4D2 just a year after L4D1. BF fans would have surely bought it, just as COD fans buy every COD every year. If you're guaranteed successful sales for easy profit, why wouldn't you do it?

While all businesses are in business for the business, (By that I mean money, funny statement there) Dice has a desire to deliver mind-blowing content unlike Activision, whose own CEO has made it clear that their ultimate goal is to rape their customers' pockets. Yearly COD releases are an easy indication of this. I'm not saying Dice is selfless and only wants to deliver what their customers really want, which is a quality BF game, but they know how to keep their customers happy all while reaping huge profits. THAT is the business model I approve of. Keep reeling in all of your original customers from the first Battlefield, while still adding new customers by adding things such as a campaign mode. Sure, the last few CODs have been selling like food, but I'm sure many classic COD1/2 veterans have let go of the franchise, and soon enough COD3/4 veterans will let go of the future releases.

While I sincerely doubt it, I hope MW3 performs below MW2. Maybe then Activision will see that they can't just keep refreshing COD every year the way they have been doing. Before I get flamed: I do have MW1, MW2, World at War, and Black Ops. I was suckered into getting MW2 and Black Ops all thanks to $30 deals, and won't make that mistake with MW3. I'm fine if others are crazy for COD and don't like BF at all. It works out better for me in my own way, which I won't mention because people around here have really been sensitive lately. I bash on COD because I don't like it. If you don't like that I don't like it, then you're doing exactly what you're complaining about: people being fanboys and making a big deal about others not liking what you like.
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