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yes, thank you. agreed. its not hard to understand or accept really.

what i cant stand is people that complain about weapons, especially the complaints about the gustav rocket. i cant wait to send one up them in battle

seriously, if i see you, shoot and miss or you get away and you run into a building for cover and i have a CG in my arsenal, do you honestly think its not going to follow you inside? what out of respect or something? its an online battlefield. bullets dont shoot through walls in BF, but rockets do its nothing more than a situational tactical choice.

if you think CG is unfair and noob, then so is using a sniper rifle from a distance. or using an assault rifle when your opponent only has a pistol. and i can tell you right now, its not. dont even try argue that one.

on topic, aussie GAME isnt offering anything yet. EB games does but they try charge like over $100 for it. ill wait for Steam.
You can shoot through walls in BC2 and I agree and disagree about the Carl Gustav. Sometimes when my clip is slow I just frantically click and scroll, which inadvertently ends up with me firing a rocket up someone's arse. But mainly, those people that use it as a main weapon annoy me. I pretty much use it soley with the tracer for choppers and tanks. Shooting infantry with it is just lame. Unless it's a sniper. Then it's fair game.
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Lol I think all it means is like bc2, they got them unlocked at the start of the game rather than having to lvl up to unlock them.

Otherwise they shouldn't actually be game changing or at all good unlocks lolol.
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Sorry but pretty much the only useless class would be Snipers. Engineers less so as they are only truly needed to take out tanks from a distance.

A squad with one Assault and 3 Medics is the worst group to come up against. Medic trains with unlimited ammo are unstoppable. When assaulting, smoke is mandatory for cover. Snipers and Engineers don't really have anything essential to a squad. I wish you could boot people out of squads like in BF2 because snipers joining my squad only ruin it for everyone else in it. They're useless for assaulting. 95% of snipers are terrible anyways. The CG is an anti-infantry weapon. It's made to kill infantry and a lot of fun to use.
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Sorry but pretty much the only useless class would be Snipers. Engineers less so as they are only truly needed to take out tanks from a distance.

A squad with one Assault and 3 Medics is the worst group to come up against. Medic trains with unlimited ammo are unstoppable. When assaulting, smoke is mandatory for cover. Snipers and Engineers don't really have anything essential to a squad. I wish you could boot people out of squads like in BF2 because snipers joining my squad only ruin it for everyone else in it. They're useless for assaulting. 95% of snipers are terrible anyways. The CG is an anti-infantry weapon. It's made to kill infantry and a lot of fun to use.
I think the very reason you're not allowed to kick people out of squads is so that valid players don't get kicked by people like yourself, also, there are more squads available than any game can fill. If you don't like someone in your squad, move and lock your squad.

Snipers are Recon for a reason, they spot and call in mortar, which I'm sure you know. These are essential aspects to team play. Though, anyone can spot, Snipers have the advantage of being able to see a long, long way. Moreso than others, therefore they have the perfect oppertunity to spot.

Also, just after arming an M-COM, the BEST thing to happen is a Sniper on your team takes a little initiative and calls a mortar down on the M-COM to stop disarms.

CG are anti vehicle weapons, not anti-infantry.
    
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95% of snipers are not valid players. They are a burden to your team and a waste of a slot. You need to be able to kick them out so they can join another squad or make their own. You can't expect 3 people to have to constantly move squads to avoid snipers all the time. You don't need 8 snipers when rushing either... How many times do you lose because wee-tards do nothing but snipe from the base in rush? I can't tell you how many times I've charged M-COMs with half the team sniping and no one drops a mortar to defend it. Even if they did, in hardcore they would be team killing. Assaults with 4X ACOGs is enough viewing range needed.
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95% of snipers are not valid players. They are a burden to your team and a waste of a slot. You need to be able to kick them out so they can join another squad or make their own. You can't expect 3 people to have to constantly move squads to avoid snipers all the time. You don't need 8 snipers when rushing either... How many times do you lose because wee-tards do nothing but snipe from the base in rush? I can't tell you how many times I've charged M-COMs with half the team sniping and no one drops a mortar to defend it. Even if they did, in hardcore they would be team killing. Assaults with 4X ACOGs is enough viewing range needed.
So long as you understand that that is just your opinion and means diddly squad in the grand scheme of things; it's all good.

Oh and you don't need to move around. Just lock your squad. I personally don't play the game in Hardcore mode. It's easy enough to kill someone anyway, I don't need the HUD hiding and all the rest in order to make myself feel like I'm a better player. And besides, a proper player would have Ventrillo on and inform his team mates he's about to drop some heavy fire on the M-COM.

ACOG's are, in my opinion, terrible. If I need/want a scope, I play recon with the SVD. Besides the fact that an ACOG on an assault rifle is woefully inaccurate and hard to control.

I share your disdain for those people who contribute nothing to the team, but they don't just stop at snipers. Plenty of assault, Medic and Engineer players who also don't contribute to the team and treat the game like Team Deathmatch. Don't be that annoying guy that singles out snipers and goes out on misinformed rants. Don't be that guy.
    
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So long as you understand that that is just your opinion and means diddly squad in the grand scheme of things; it's all good.

Oh and you don't need to move around. Just lock your squad. I personally don't play the game in Hardcore mode. It's easy enough to kill someone anyway, I don't need the HUD hiding and all the rest in order to make myself feel like I'm a better player. And besides, a proper player would have Ventrillo on and inform his team mates he's about to drop some heavy fire on the M-COM.

ACOG's are, in my opinion, terrible. If I need/want a scope, I play recon with the SVD. Besides the fact that an ACOG on an assault rifle is woefully inaccurate and hard to control.

I share your disdain for those people who contribute nothing to the team, but they don't just stop at snipers. Plenty of assault, Medic and Engineer players who also don't contribute to the team and treat the game like Team Deathmatch. Don't be that annoying guy that singles out snipers and goes out on misinformed rants. Don't be that guy.
Locking your squad doesn't allow for anyone else to join it... Do you even think before you type? I'm the person who has to carry the team charging mcoms, providing smoke cover, taking out choppers with AT4 because no one else can or reviving everyone. I don't need useless bush wookiees who do nothing to help take objectives and taking up a spawn point in my squad. Sorry I don't like noobs in my squad.

You've got it backwards. You need the mini-map to help you play because you're handicapped and can't spot people with your own eyes or triangulate their position with sound. Non-hardcore is the gimped mode where one person spotting shows the entire team where they are. Now that's noob mode for you... There's no orange dot over people's heads in real combat and most players in a server are pubbies who aren't in voice comms...

BF2 had the best squad and commander management of all the battlefield series. I hope BF3 continues with it although they said there wouldn't be a commander.

The fact is that at least 9 out of 10 snipers in BC2 are horrible at their profession and everyone knows it. Sniping doesn't help you win in rush. Assault and Medics are the most useful professions at obtaining objectives bar none. If you want to be a team player, choose either. Sniping is only acceptable for defenders.
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The fact is that at least 9 out of 10 snipers in BC2 are horrible at their profession and everyone knows it. Sniping doesn't help you win in rush. Assault and Medics are the most useful professions at obtaining objectives bar none. If you want to be a team player, choose either. Sniping is only acceptable for defenders.
Pretty much the truth...to a point. While it's true most snipers are pretty useless, looking out for their own KDR's and how far they can snipe someone. SOME of them move up with the team, throwing motion mines, laying down mortar strikes just beyond the mcom or on the mcom to keep the opposing team from disarming.

There's a LOT of things RECON can do in BC2 to benefit the team. It's just that few people actually play Recon and instead play Sniper.

As for Assault, my best KDR and points are made up from assault. Not only can they provide smoke coverage, but they can provide ammo, can C4 buildings, objectives, and tanks. They're the backbone of a team and if you aren't blowing holes in walls to expose the enemy you may as well just hide in the back.

I'm pretty sick of telling everyone to "Move up" and fighting my way through a crowd just so my team can sit back and hide so they don't get shot at.
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Yeah, it's like they're afraid to die in a video game or something. If everyone would just move up at the same time there's nothing the other team can do when you have medic trains.
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I completely stopped playing Rush back when I was playing BC2, sometimes you'd have 14 snipers pretty much camping at the exact same spot while me and another guy would try to capture the points, it was completly infuriating. I then played conquest exclusively, there's still some games where there's a lot of snipers camping but far less, I only use the recon class with the Thompson or G3 and help spotting ennemies that's all.
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