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Funny how this is the only reply that makes sense. Why do so many people assume the 212+ is so much better than the DK? If you did your research, you can see that the 212+ cools slightly better than the DK (by 1C), but the DK is quieter than the 212+ (by .5dBA).

Yes, the 212+ is the better cooler because it is much cheaper. But, seeing he already has the DK, the obvious best advice is to just buy the bracket. Why pay extra money to buy a cooler that is almost identical to the one he has (in terms of performance). Hopefully, OP sees this before he wastes money.
Aside from which is better, he can pickup a 212+ locally and be up and running the same day. With Memorial Day weekend fast approaching the chances of getting the bracket in less than a week is pretty slim. While the 212+ will cost more, at least he can be up and running right away. For a lot of people that would be the better option.

The DK is only quieter if you don't know how to set the 212+ up right, and the difference in temps between them is more like 5C than 1C.
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post #22 of 31
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212, junk the Dark night. It's poo
Going to have to disagree there mate. 4.4 GHz out of my i5 760 and i get 40* idle and 60* folding temps. although that was with the Delta put on it.

goes up to 75* folding, after 2 hours though. inside my case etc...
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post #23 of 31
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Aside from which is better, he can pickup a 212+ locally and be up and running the same day. With Memorial Day weekend fast approaching the chances of getting the bracket in less than a week is pretty slim. While the 212+ will cost more, at least he can be up and running right away. For a lot of people that would be the better option.

The DK is only quieter if you don't know how to set the 212+ up right, and the difference in temps between them is more like 5C than 1C.
Who said anything about "how fast the bracket will come". I thought this thread was "buy bracket for DK, or buy 212+" period.

Do you have both a DK and 212+, and are you comparing temperatures/noise levels? Or, are your claims just what you think is true? According to Frostytech.com, the 212+ cools 1C better than the DK (not 5C), and the DK is quieter by .5 dBA. But like you said, they probably didn't "set up the 212+ right" since it is such a hard thing to do.

I actually bought my DK for $25 + free card reader. Why did I not buy a 212+? Because for AMD chips, the DK cools a little better and is a little quieter. But, that's probably because I don't know how to "set up the 212+ right".

I can't believe my eyes. It appears that there are actually CM 212+ fanboys.
Edited by charlie310 - 5/26/11 at 8:23am
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I'm going to assume Papasmurf meant swapping out the fan for two better ones in push/pull
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I'm going to assume Papasmurf meant swapping out the fan for two better ones in push/pull
Or swapping stock fan for noctua. In which case, both can be done to basically all HS/Fan/Watercoolers.
Edited by charlie310 - 5/26/11 at 8:24am
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post #27 of 31
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Who said anything about "how fast the bracket will come". I thought this thread was "buy bracket for DK, or buy 212+" period.

Do you have both a DK and 212+, and are you comparing temperatures/noise levels? Or, are your claims just what you think is true? According to Frostytech.com, the 212+ cools 1C better than the DK (not 5C), and the DK is quieter by .5 dBA. But like you said, they probably didn't "set up the 212+ right" since it is such a hard thing to do.

I actually bought my DK for $25 + free card reader. Why did I not buy a 212+? Because for AMD chips, the DK cools a little better and is a little quieter. But, that's probably because I don't know how to "set up the 212+ right".

I can't believe my eyes. It appears that there are actually CM 212+ fanboys.
I've used both. Even with the stock fans the 212+ gave 5C lower temps on the same system than the DK did. FrostyTechs review used the older 212+ with the metal fan retention springs instead of the newer plastic ones that are quieter. The difference between the DK and the 212+ when it comes to noise would be negligible, but the 1 less heatpipe on the DK combined with a fan with less static pressure accounts for the 212+ winning in both categories. Every legitimate review I have seen other than FrostyTech has shown the 212+ to be better.

As for the time element, when the OP stated in post #14 that "Fry's is like a mile away." he indicates that time is a relevant factor.

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Overpriced and no PWM fan control so on most motherboards the fans would run at full speed 24/7 which would make them noisier than either the 212+ or the DK.
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post #28 of 31
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Calm down guys. Jesus.

I went and got the 212+ today as I wanted to get this system running asap.

The DK will go into another pc so it's not a waste.

I have my 2500K at 4.5 as you can see, and the stock fan on the 212 is LOUD.

I realize that if I want to keep my CPU clocked this high I need proper cooling.

So I went ahead and replaced the stock fan with a Antec tricool, that fan has a switch so I set it to medium and the noise is now tolerable.

However the has doesn't have PWM so it is stuck on one speed.


I think I will just take the fan from the DK and put it on the 212+
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post #29 of 31
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I've used both. Even with the stock fans the 212+ gave 5C lower temps on the same system than the DK did. FrostyTechs review used the older 212+ with the metal fan retention springs instead of the newer plastic ones that are quieter. The difference between the DK and the 212+ when it comes to noise would be negligible, but the 1 less heatpipe on the DK combined with a fan with less static pressure accounts for the 212+ winning in both categories. Every legitimate review I have seen other than FrostyTech has shown the 212+ to be better.
What "every legitimate review" do you speak of? Without any sources, it just sounds like you are talking out of your

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Calm down guys. Jesus.

I went and got the 212+ today as I wanted to get this system running asap.

The DK will go into another pc so it's not a waste.

I have my 2500K at 4.5 as you can see, and the stock fan on the 212 is LOUD.

I realize that if I want to keep my CPU clocked this high I need proper cooling.

So I went ahead and replaced the stock fan with a Antec tricool, that fan has a switch so I set it to medium and the noise is now tolerable.

However the has doesn't have PWM so it is stuck on one speed.


I think I will just take the fan from the DK and put it on the 212+
Everyone here is calm. Just getting facts strait, is all.

You know where I stand with 212+ vs your DK. But, regarding the fan, I would have gotten a different fan. I have tri-cools on my case, and at medium they are pretty loud for the air it pushes. My Slipstream 2150 at 70% is quieter than the tri-cools at low.
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What "every legitimate review" do you speak of? Without any sources, it just sounds like you are talking out of your
http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...k_dark_knight/ 212+ comes in at 8-12C lower than the DK

I'm not going to waste any more time looking for the rest of the reviews as it isn't worth it. You have your opinion and I can tell by your posts that noting I can say, or any links I can provide will change your mind about anything.



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Everyone here is calm. Just getting facts strait, is all.
I wouldn't say that. You seem fairly hostile to me.

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You know where I stand with 212+ vs your DK. But, regarding the fan, I would have gotten a different fan. I have tri-cools on my case, and at medium they are pretty loud for the air it pushes. My Slipstream 2150 at 70% is quieter than the tri-cools at low.
I would agree that the Slipstream would be a good fan for it
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