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Ok, so I've never touched the SSDs, so I'm kinda unsure how to read performance and what not on them. Here's my few questions that need answering...

1. My motherboard is only a SATAII motherboard, would I still benefit from getting SATAIII SSD? If I understand correctly, they are backwards compatible and when I eventually make the jump to SB/IB I'll be able to upgrade to SATAIII at that point?

2. Budget is somewhere around $100 USD, could splurge and go a little bit higher, maybe $125-$130 if it really is worth the dough (more storage space or speed or whatever)... What size and performance can I be looking at?

3. What on earth is an IOPS and how does it affect me?

4. Which drive do you recommend? All the threads I see talk about this controller and that controller and I just don't know what to buy. They're all gonna feel fast to me, but if I'm going to do it, I want to do it right.

Thanks a lot guys, look forward to booting in seconds (current RAID setup has me pushing close to a minute, lol)
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1. My motherboard is only a SATAII motherboard, would I still benefit from getting SATAIII SSD? If I understand correctly, they are backwards compatible and when I eventually make the jump to SB/IB I'll be able to upgrade to SATAIII at that point?

You would not see any benefit using Sata 3 on a Sata 2. If you can though get a sata 3 for the future since you would see it using a compatible motherboard.

2. Budget is somewhere around $100 USD, could splurge and go a little bit higher, maybe $125-$130 if it really is worth the dough (more storage space or speed or whatever)... What size and performance can I be looking at?

A crucial c300 if you can find one on sale will cost roughly $100 for a 64gb. Enough for an OS and a TON of apps.

3. What on earth is an IOPS and how does it affect me?

Can't remember right now. Try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOPS maybe.

4. Which drive do you recommend? All the threads I see talk about this controller and that controller and I just don't know what to buy. They're all gonna feel fast to me, but if I'm going to do it, I want to do it right.

Again, Crucial C300 (or 400 if they are any better).

Thanks a lot guys, look forward to booting in seconds (current RAID setup has me pushing close to a minute, lol)
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Originally Posted by DaClownie View Post
Ok, so I've never touched the SSDs, so I'm kinda unsure how to read performance and what not on them. Here's my few questions that need answering...

1. My motherboard is only a SATAII motherboard, would I still benefit from getting SATAIII SSD? If I understand correctly, they are backwards compatible and when I eventually make the jump to SB/IB I'll be able to upgrade to SATAIII at that point?

2. Budget is somewhere around $100 USD, could splurge and go a little bit higher, maybe $125-$130 if it really is worth the dough (more storage space or speed or whatever)... What size and performance can I be looking at?

3. What on earth is an IOPS and how does it affect me?

4. Which drive do you recommend? All the threads I see talk about this controller and that controller and I just don't know what to buy. They're all gonna feel fast to me, but if I'm going to do it, I want to do it right.

Thanks a lot guys, look forward to booting in seconds (current RAID setup has me pushing close to a minute, lol)
1: If you expect to upgrade in the future, sure, why not...however most of those are generally going to push out of your budget so I wouldn't think of them just yet.

2: More than anything, I would balance towards storage, then go for speed. With your budget, you could find a good quality 80GB that will be more than enough to store your OS and a couple of most used applications and games comfortably. Any less than that and you'll probably feel uncomfortably tight and will be constantly monitoring storage usage, very inconvenient.

3: IOPS(input-output/second) basically refers to the speed of the drive. There is sequential and random IOPS. Sequential is very useful for large transfers, but for a boot drive, random IOPS is the most important, especially random read, as your OS will be doing a lot of these when quickly opening up applications or booting up, etc. This will affect your performance the most when using windows, so the higher the better.

4: A lot of people will probably recommend the sandforce s-1200 controller in your case, but if you push out of your budget a bit, the x-25 80gb intel drive has awesome random performance and probably the best quality as far as hardware goes.
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M4 is the newer c300, But c300 is good drive i had mine over 6months UNLIKE vertex 60gb driver fw flashes. and bad data and drives failed i have 3 . C300 install win7 then updated the fw on ssd and thats it.

sata dose matter but from a platter drive to ssd wont notic it that much. i had mine in sata 2 then i swaped for sata 6.

c300 @ 60gb is slower then 128 or 256 thats how they are made. But u will love it.
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There's alot to go through.

1. SATAII will be fine for a SATAIII SSD. You won't gain any speed, nor will you lose any. Also SATAIII SSD's are more expensive then II. They are still pretty new and with it comes the price tag. But why half a** it now.

2. I think your budget is to small for a good one. You can get the older model 220/200 ones for around $100. I don't use newegg so pricing help is useless from me. Everything is in AU here

3.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOPS That will explain most of it. The more the better. It allows for more/faster read/writes.

4.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227726

That's what I would buy if money wasn't to much of an issue.
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C300 is pretty well the best you will get at that price range atm. Act fast though.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148357

I purchased a M4 from them today myself. C300 will give slightly better performance for a boot drive with a larger IOPS rating, the M4 is faster on sequential reads otoh.
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I'm not really hot on OCZ right now but you can get the new OCZ Solid 3 60GB SATA III Series for $125,supposedly rated at 20,000 IOPS 4K write
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227728
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C300 is pretty well the best you will get at that price range atm. Act fast though.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148357

I purchased a M4 from them today myself. C300 will give slightly better performance for a boot drive with a larger IOPS rating, the M4 is faster on sequential reads otoh.
That C300 does sound good, and its got repeated recommendations so far... and it DOES fit my budget.

As far as what I need to install on this drive... Windows, Office Professional (latest version), WoW, maybe 1-2 other games that I'd keep on a rotation. I don't believe any of these pieces of software are going to benefit from Sequential Read and Write (other than initial install) so that 60k IOPS Random 4k Read is a good stat for me?
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That C300 does sound good, and its got repeated recommendations so far... and it DOES fit my budget.

As far as what I need to install on this drive... Windows, Office Professional (latest version), WoW, maybe 1-2 other games that I'd keep on a rotation. I don't believe any of these pieces of software are going to benefit from Sequential Read and Write (other than initial install) so that 60k IOPS Random 4k Read is a good stat for me?
Yes, it's perfect for what your looking for. As for games, people claim that for MMO's they have an advantage. I play FPS's myself, so I can attest to faster map load times. But that is the only advantage for FPS games. I wouldn't waste the space on FPS games. I have all of my games on a short stroked Samsung F3 partition, and there isn't a large enough difference in performance for me to justify wasting precious SSD space on them.

WoW, on the other hand...many have said they get better performance with. If anything, I'd maybe wait on acquiring a second before I put WoW on your SSD, simply due to how much space a WoW folder takes up. I'd be much more comfortable with 128GB for that folder.

Couldn't comment on Office Pro myself. But Open Office is a noticeably snappier, and I wouldn't expect MS Office to be any different. I can tell you this, once you experience SSD speeds, you won't look back. Next, you'll want a second for a Raid 0...or maybe even 2 more.

I only got the M4 because of a curiosity to see the real world difference.
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