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post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by hirolla888 View Post
The guy in your video didn't even do any testing! He's talking in theory, where are he's results?

The video I showed you is relevant to today and more importantly OP. He's component selections are very similar to those in the video which clearly proved there is no more than a 1-2% difference, not 15%.

Here is a "gaming scenario" if you weren't convinced with the synthetic tests that proves the same thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfXAL...el_video_title

P.S in the first video 580s were tested, their performance is higher than 570s, so if 8x/8x didn't bottleneck 580s then it definitely wouldn't bottleneck 570s
WOW YOU DONT GIVE UP DO YOU!

Bottom line is x16 performs better than x8 how much is debatable, AND HOW MUCH DEPENDS ON YOUR PARTS. i showed game benchmark in my first post of x16 being 12% better than x8 , granted in your bechmark score it was 1%. BUT depending on the game it can be as much as 12-15% YOU DONT HAVE TO BELIEVE IT IF YOU DONT WANT ( i do)

PS, im not telling you to buy anything !! But any loss of performance EVEN 1-2% is a big deal to some/ including me!

PS. I love friendly disagreements, even if im wrong,and im not i still learn ( its a win win)
Edited by MIKEVALL - 5/24/11 at 6:54am
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post #12 of 22
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If your going to sli, the MSI P67A-GD65 pcie slots ,will run at x16x16, the other two will run x16x8 and x8x8 - correct me if im wrong. This may not be a huge difference in the end, but if your spending alot of money on high end graphics you will be giving away performance. (Just my opinoin!)
SLI/Crossfire on the MSI P67 GD65 is 8x+8x. He will do much better with the Gigabyte Z68X UD4 (16 phase, SLI/Crossfire (8x+8x) compliant, SSD Caching, etc.) He will be getting more for the same cost.
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post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by MIKEVALL View Post
WOW YOU DONT GIVE UP DO YOU!

Bottom line is x16 performs better than x8 how much is debatable, AND HOW MUCH DEPENDS ON YOUR PARTS. i showed game benchmark in my first post of x16 being 12% better than x8 , granted in your bechmark score it was 1%. BUT depending on the game it can be as much as 12-15% YOU DONT HAVE TO BELIEVE IT IF YOU DONT WANT ( i do)

PS, im not telling you to buy anything !! But any loss of performance EVEN 1-2% is a big deal to some/ including me!

PS. I love friendly disagreements, even if im wrong,and im not i still learn ( its a win win)
Agree to disagree is fine by me lol.

Hope all this didn't make your decision harder OP

Maybe start a poll...
post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by hirolla888 View Post
The guy in your video didn't even do any testing! He's talking in theory, where are he's results?

The video I showed you is relevant to today and more importantly OP. He's component selections are very similar to those in the video which clearly proved there is no more than a 1-2% difference, not 15%.

Here is a "gaming scenario" if you weren't convinced with the synthetic tests that proves the same thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfXAL...el_video_title

P.S in the first video 580s were tested, their performance is higher than 570s, so if 8x/8x didn't bottleneck 580s then it definitely wouldn't bottleneck 570s
This ^^ He is actually doing the testing and shows the numbers. That guy from 3DGameman or whatever shows nothing.
    
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post #15 of 22
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This ^^ He is actually doing the testing and shows the numbers. That guy from 3DGameman or whatever shows nothing.
HA HA HA wow????

HE IS NOT MAKING ANY WILD CLAIMS???

PROOF? read my first post/review

He wrote the numbers on a piece of paper! But you believe him? the other guy could have done that to lol. I didnt see any testing at all , only thing i saw was numbers written in pencil on a piece of paper!!!

here i did some testing as well!

my gtx 580 did 800 fps in metro 2033.

a stock one did 60 fps in metro 2033

see right there are my numbers!! (proof yeah?)

Man i must have gotten a golden gtx 580!!

wanna buy it??
Edited by MIKEVALL - 5/24/11 at 9:58am
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post #16 of 22
There is nothing in life that isnt debatable, except for being rude.

My opinion is i rather have a 16x 16x sli, because a pci-e 2.0 and 1.0 difference did sort of bottle neck some of my systems.

Although it shouldnt according to some, but of course in reality, especially with electronics, people forget that even the same graphics card, same model number and released batch can have slightly different performances just as a same cpu model stepping id are different in overclocking potential.

bottomline, nothing is 100% definite in electronics
    
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post #17 of 22
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HA HA HA wow????

HE IS NOT MAKING ANY WILD CLAIMS???

PROOF? read my first post/review

He wrote the numbers on a piece of paper! But you believe him? the other guy could have done that to lol. I didnt see any testing at all , only thing i saw was numbers written in pencil on a piece of paper!!!

here i did some testing as well!

my gtx 580 did 800 fps in metro 2033.

a stock one did 60 fps in metro 2033

see right there are my numbers!! (proof yeah?)

Man i must have gotten a golden gtx 580!!

wanna buy it??
I see... You are defending your beloved i7 1366 system
    
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post #18 of 22
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ok i'll go with the z68 board, but i still dont knw what integrated graphics are and what is Quicksync. Im not lazy i google'd this and ive yet to find a clear explantion.
    
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post #19 of 22
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ok i'll go with the z68 board, but i still dont knw what integrated graphics are and what is Quicksync. Im not lazy i google'd this and ive yet to find a clear explantion.
It's part of the cpu core.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/hom..._graphics_core

It's mostly for if you don't do intensive graphics, don't game or just want it as a backup graphics solution. That was my original reason to go for a Z68. I'm wondering if I should just save up for a low power ATI or Nvidia solution, though.

The Z68 boards still seem a bit expensive and there's not as many as P67 boards. Not sure yet, though.

Also, not all the Z68 boards have the integrated graphics output.
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post #20 of 22
Yes both are built into the cpu, the graphics, plus the quicksync ( hardware acceleration)
You dont have to worry about the onboard graphics, because you will be using dedicated graphics cards, and i dont believe most z86 chipsets support it anyway! Dont worry a dedicated video card will give you much better performance!

here is a link explaining the onboard graphics

http://www.intel.com/technology/graphics/intelhd.htm

this is from intells website explaining quicksync ( hope it helps)

http://www.intel.com/technology/graphics/index.htm
Intel Quick Sync Video, built right into 2nd generation Intel® Core™ processors, is breakthrough hardware acceleration that lets you complete in minutes what used to take hours. Create DVDs or Blu-ray* discs, edit videos, convert video files for your portable media player, and convert videos for upload to your favorite social networking sites–all in a flash.

PCs with Intel Quick Sync Video can convert HD video content for a handheld device twice as fast as PCs based on previous generation Intel® Core™ processors.¹ Instead of waiting for your video, your video is waiting for you.
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