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Originally Posted by Kreeker View Post
Hey Guys,

I'm building a new comp and choosing the graphics card is giving me the most trouble. Specs of the build are listed below:
  • i7-2600K
  • ASUS P8Z68-V PRO
  • G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
  • CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W
  • SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s
  • Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler
  • COOLER MASTER HAF X
  • Waiting on SSD

The cards I'm looking at are MSI N580GTX Lightning GeForce GTX 580, MSI R6970 Lightning Radeon HD 6970 2GB or maybe a SLi/CF setup.

I'm looking for the best REAL world performance. High benchmark numbers do me no good if when it comes to actually playing the game, the experience is horrible.

I will be playing at 1080p with max settings or close to max settings. Games include SC2, WoW, BF3 and maybe metro.

What do you guys think?
There's no way you're going to stay in the $500 range. A P8P67 Pro ($50 cheaper than the P8Z68-V PRO you've chosen), 2500k ($100 cheaper than the 2600k), 4GB RAM ($20 cheaper than 8GB RAM), and 1TB F3 alone are $499. Add the HAF X alone and you're in the 600s, without a power supply nor video card.

Drop the 2600k, get the 2500k, scores a little higher framerate than the 2600k on many games. You seriously don't need the 2600k unless you're folding or doing intense editing work. You'll more than likely want to upgrade to Ivy Bridge in less than a year anyway. $100 drop.

Drop the 8GB of RAM, get 4GB, you don't need 8, especially not for gaming. ~$30-$50 drop.

Drop the HAF X, get a HAF 932. Practically the same case, $80 drop.

With the ~$200 cut off from above, you can nearly get a GTX570 with just a little more cash.

2500k, GTX560, 4GB RAM, P8P67 Pro, HAF922 = $799. Still need a power supply and DVD drive.
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/Pu...umber=23710108
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 5/24/11 at 12:21pm
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the 2600k DOES NOT have more cores . It has 2MB more L3 cache and hyperthreading , which for gaming is useless . As others stated , you'll change long before games start needing a i5 at least ... Put more into the GPU/S .
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Originally Posted by Stealth Pyros View Post
There's no way you're going to stay in the $500 range. A P8P67 Pro ($50 cheaper than the P8Z68-V PRO you've chosen), 2500k, 4GB RAM, and 1TB F3 alone are $499.

Drop the 2600k, get the 2500k, scores a little higher framerate than the 2600k on many games. You seriously don't need the 2600k unless you're folding or doing intense editing work. You'll more than likely want to upgrade to Ivy Bridge in less than a year anyway. $100 drop.

Drop the 8GB of RAM, get 4GB, you don't need 8, especially not for gaming. ~$30-$50 drop.

Drop the HAF X, get a HAF 932. Practically the same case, $80 drop.

With the ~$200 cut off from above, you can nearly get a GTX570 with just a little more cash.
I'm probably going to drop the i7.

The extra cash for the ram is worth it to me. I use xilinx and photoshop.

The X is about $35 more than 932, and the dust filters are worth the money for me.

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the 2600k DOES NOT have more cores . It has 2MB more L3 cache and hyperthreading , which for gaming is useless . As others stated , you'll change long before games start needing a i5 at least ... Put more into the GPU/S .
I will probably do that. But isn't $500 dollars on a gpu arleady a good amount of cash...
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There's no way you're going to stay in the $500 range. A P8P67 Pro ($50 cheaper than the P8Z68-V PRO you've chosen), 2500k ($100 cheaper than the 2600k), 4GB RAM ($20 cheaper than 8GB RAM), and 1TB F3 alone are $499. Add the HAF X alone and you're in the 600s, without a power supply nor video card.

Drop the 2600k, get the 2500k, scores a little higher framerate than the 2600k on many games. You seriously don't need the 2600k unless you're folding or doing intense editing work. You'll more than likely want to upgrade to Ivy Bridge in less than a year anyway. $100 drop.

Drop the 8GB of RAM, get 4GB, you don't need 8, especially not for gaming. ~$30-$50 drop.

Drop the HAF X, get a HAF 932. Practically the same case, $80 drop.

With the ~$200 cut off from above, you can nearly get a GTX570 with just a little more cash.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/Pu...umber=23710108
He says 500$ is the budget for the GPU/S ...
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Originally Posted by Kreeker View Post
I'm probably going to drop the i7.

The extra cash for the ram is worth it to me. I use xilinx and photoshop.

The X is about $35 more than 932, and the dust filters are worth the money for me.

I will probably do that. But isn't $500 dollars on a gpu arleady a good amount of cash...
Ehhh mind sharing where you're getting the HAF X for $35 more than a 932? They've typically been $80 apart. Even the 912 has dust filters, and filters cost pennies. Just looking out for you... to try and shave down every dollar possible to reach your target range. I'm going for a 2600k build myself, but I'm going to wait a few months since Bulldozer comes out next month. Intel will likely drop their prices. A single GTX580 is nearly guaranteed to run BF3 maxed flawlessly.
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 5/24/11 at 12:27pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by madalin View Post
He says 500$ is the budget for the GPU/S ...
Yeah thread title is misleading, but I figured it would be understood considering this is the graphics forum.

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Originally Posted by Stealth Pyros View Post
Ehhh mind sharing where you're getting the HAF X for $35 more than a 932? They've typically been $80 apart. Even the 912 has dust filters, and filters cost pennies. Just looking out for you... to try and shave down every dollar possible to reach your target range.
The X is also suppose to have better airflow.

The X is $199.99 with $10 rebate, free shipping from newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119225

The 932 is $154.99, free shipping from amazon.

Maybe I should I wait for bulldozer?

I've already waited 7 years after building my first comp at the age of 13....

Just so you guys can laugh... Current setup: amd 3500+, x800pro, 1gb ram
Edited by Kreeker - 5/24/11 at 12:30pm
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Yeah thread title is misleading, but I figured it would be understood considering this is the graphics forum.

The X is also suppose to have better airflow.

The X is $199.99 with $10 rebate, free shipping from newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119225

The 932 is $154.99, free shipping from amazon.
Amazon.com: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced Full Tower Case with SuperSpeed USB 3.0 - (RC-932-KKN5-GP): Electronics

Maybe I should I wait for bulldozer?

I've already waited 7 years after building my first comp at the age of 13....

Just so you guys can laugh... Current setup: amd 3500+, x800pro, 1gb ram
Meh, it does have better airflow but it's not a remarkable difference, it simply has a slot on top for an extra fan, which you would have to buy. I build PCs nearly weekly to sell and I've built into every HAF model; the X isn't that much better than the 932. You can't get much better than 98% perfect! Oh I see now, you were referring to the "Black Edition" 932. The standard one which is apparently harder to find now generally sold for $120.

I would definitely wait a month or two. Wait for Bulldozer to hit and decide between Intel and AMD after Intel drops their prices.

I had a 3500+ and X800XT, great build, that card was amazing back then.
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 5/24/11 at 12:37pm
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It's exactly why I recommend getting unlocked 6950s instead of 1 GTX 580.
Around same price.




There is more than Newegg.
Nice try only quoting half my post to make a dig.

Your recommendation is lacking a link to an available Reference 2GB 6950.
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Buy 2600K, is much better than 2500k becouse have hyperthreading and its like 8 cores, and in future it can be very worthly for games. And i would buy gtx580 if you want in future another to sli, othervise i would buy gtx590 and evga you buy
No, just so much fail. Please stop mutilating the English language as well as providing incorrect advice.

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Yeah, future proofing is the reason I'm going with the 2600k.

Yeah ~500$ is the budget for the gpu.

As for the PSU, I've read the 850HX can actually produce close to 1000W of power. I don't know if that's true though. What PSU would you recommend?
I would go for the i5 2500K, they generally are able to overclock better than their i7 counter-part. The i5 is all you will need for gaming, HT only comes in advantage with rendering and heavily multi-threaded apps. Save the extra money and go for a better SSD/Case/GPU/ect.

The HX850 can provide 1010w of power if needed, horrible efficiency at that rate though, but it can nonetheless. The HX and AX series are so similar, the AX850 and HX850 both qualify for gold 80+ but Corsair left the HX850 at silver, possibly for marketing towards the AX series.

If you want to SLI later, the HX850 is a good unit. If you aren't, you should look at a SeaSonic X650.

The GPU, GTX580 is good. But its getting on, something will come by soon and replace it. I would say either get the MSI Lightening GTX580 or wait. Knowing this community you're gonna go for the GTX580

And who ever is advising 2 cards now, 1 card will always be better (non-performance terms).
It is better to get the top-of-the-range GPU now with the possibility of SLI'ing it later, it will be much cheaper and provides you with a more versatile upgrade solution. Don't over commit basically
Edited by Alex132 - 5/26/11 at 6:33am
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