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Originally Posted by ShiftedReality View Post
I had a rooted and custom rom Evo 4g.. was all fine untill i had to change it back to stock so i can get a new one because the charger port broke. I still want the EVO 3D even if it is locked but that is just me i guess
Might be a hassle, but that's why I keep a 1.47 stock RUU and S-On on my sd card.
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That's not why phone's bootloaders are locked at all.

First off, it's virtually impossible to brick your phone using software methods only. It's very difficult, there are so many tools available to modders to recover their "bricked" phones. If we have those tools at our dispense, imagine what tools the manufacturer have. If you returned your "bricked" phone, they can easily return it back to stock...because, well, that's what they do.

The reason manufacturers are locking the bootloaders is to prevent root access to prevent unauthorized tethering, because that's the way the carriers want it.



You're thinking about ROOTING. No one has been able to crack the bootloader on the recently locked bootloaders. It doesn't look like anyone will by the way the community is.

And if they are using the same technology that motorola is using, they are, it's currently unbreakable. Unless you have the key, you will not unlock the bootloader. Look at the Droid X if you don't believe me (although there are semi-workarounds in place for the x). All phones are moving this way, and until this community steps up and gives a real attempt to tackle these locked bootloaders, they will continue to be locked.
Oh really, so the un-informed users that attempt to root their devices don't pose a risk for the manufacturer/carrier to have to deal with costs when some end user starts complaining about things?

It isn't virtually impossible, NANDs CAN die, hardware can go wrong after flashing. It is possible.

Just because the manufacturers can do so because "thats what they do" doesn't mean their isn't time and cost involved in doing so.

Also, why do you think carriers want locked bootloaders then?

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LG has a 3D phone also

Didn't know that.
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yup going to grab the 3d, but i'm waiting till its unlocked 1st. i cant the same rom on my evo for more than a week. i'm a flash addict
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Oh really, so the un-informed users that attempt to root their devices don't pose a risk for the manufacturer/carrier to have to deal with costs when some end user starts complaining about things?

It isn't virtually impossible, NANDs CAN die, hardware can go wrong after flashing. It is possible.

Just because the manufacturers can do so because "thats what they do" doesn't mean their isn't time and cost involved in doing so.

Also, why do you think carriers want locked bootloaders then?

Didn't know that.
tethering, piracy and control. The risks posed to the manufacturers eating the cost of returned bricked phones is miniscule. Think about it. We are the minority, and even then most tools to root your phone are rather simple. Yeah sure the first couple of weeks are rocky in terms of guides to root a new phone, but how many people do you know that will buy the phone and root it within 2 weeks AND not have any clue about the rooting process? As its almost always user error. If a guide/app gets released that bricks the phone it only takes 1 guy to inform everyone else the method doesnt work.
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Seems they caved to the phone carriers. Alot of people root just to use wireless tether.. I dont think the carriers were happy about losing out on that hotspot subscription.

That's my guess anyways.

For now I will stick with my rooted EVO.

Also, make sure to post on their FB, Twitter, whatever. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...69&postcount=5
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This is why I did not even consider the x2 and why I'm not considering the droid3. Waiting to see what Samsung is going to do. If they lock down too then I'm sticking with my incredible until it gets to be so old that people stare when I pull it out. I have too much fun messing around with phones. I really wish they would just give this up, as I believe this is stupid.
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Lame!
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Oh really, so the un-informed users that attempt to root their devices don't pose a risk for the manufacturer/carrier to have to deal with costs when some end user starts complaining about things?

It isn't virtually impossible, NANDs CAN die, hardware can go wrong after flashing. It is possible.

Just because the manufacturers can do so because "thats what they do" doesn't mean their isn't time and cost involved in doing so.

Also, why do you think carriers want locked bootloaders then?
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Really? It has to do with wifi tether. It has nothing to do with people bricking phones, you brick your phone you have to buy a new one out of pocket, how would they lose by that?

I really thought I was getting a 3D, but I think I'll wait for the GS2 now. After reading the specs on it I wouldn't be losing out anyways. I would have continued on with HTC since they've been so good to me over the last 4 phones, but sadly if there is no root there is no patronage from myself or the 3 lines on my account.
     
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didnt they say the same thing about another phone? that turned out to be a sham. not the sensation
This, the incredible S got this right before release. I bet its just some small change to their current bootloaders (which have all been locked and cracked relatively quickly) which will make it take a day longer to crack.

Sensationalist article is sensationalist.
Edited by jackeyjoe - 5/25/11 at 6:08pm
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