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I was referred to CaseLabs cases from another site. I've been looking for a case for a storage server (20+ drive bays) for some time that does not have a rack-mount form factor. As far as I am aware, outside of some of the few-and-far-between cube cases or some of the slap-two-towers-together hacks, no such case exists. Someone mentioned your cases and I have to admit, it's the first one I've seen that could fit the bill!

Questions,

- what are your thoughts on using this case as a storage server for 20+ 3.5 inch drives, in terms of cooling, etc.?

- I'm a bit concerned about the case being very front-heavy if I went down this road; the builds I've seen are heavy GPU rigs with watercooling and radiators out back to counterbalance whatever drives are up front, but in my case this would be something like a single-socket Xeon with a whole bunch of drives. Is it possible to mount drives in all that empty space elsewhere in the case? Are there any provisions for this sort of configuration?

- I was wondering if handles are available or ever might be at some point, to lift and move such a thing.

- Silly question but given its size, with sufficiently quiet cooling, how does this hold up as impromptu living room furniture... say, like a makeshift end table next to a sofa to hold a remote or some such?

Thoughts on my silly questions would be appreciated!
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Sphinx - welcome to the boards. I'm an M8 owner myself.

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- what are your thoughts on using this case as a storage server for 20+ 3.5 inch drives, in terms of cooling, etc.?
Cooling shouldn't be an issue. There is plenty of airflow options in this case that there shouldn't ever be an issue with cooling. 6-8 intake fans in front and either have positive pressure forcing the heat out the PSU side and mobo back vents, or make some of the bottom spaces as fan exhaust. (yeah yeah heat rises . . . but pulling in fresh air to hit the drives first is a better option in a storage array)

Besides, even with 20 drives, they won't all be spun up together 100% of the time, so your heat issues should be minimal.

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- I'm a bit concerned about the case being very front-heavy if I went down this road;
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Is it possible to mount drives in all that empty space elsewhere in the case? Are there any provisions for this sort of configuration?
The cases are incrediblly sturdy. I imagine even with a front load of 20 drives, you won't have tipping issues unless you are moving it frequently. Still nervous?

CaseLabs has both verticle and horizontal accessory mounting bars that you can purchase. You could use them and a couple of their hdd mounts or even hdd flex mounts (to have a fan on them wherever you move the HDD's too) and then mount them wherever in your case you want.

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- I was wondering if handles are available or ever might be at some point, to lift and move such a thing.
As far as I know Case labs doesn't have any case handles. There are plenty of aftermarket handles around that you could get though. In working with their case, there are few places if any to mount them. With the weight of a storage array of that size, you most definetly will need to mount them to the frame rails - probably on the top. This could be done, but would require a bit of cutting and modding. A number of folks can help you work this out - shoot me a PM if you want.

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- Silly question but given its size, with sufficiently quiet cooling, how does this hold up as impromptu living room furniture... say, like a makeshift end table next to a sofa to hold a remote or some such?
Interesting idea . . . my wife would never go for it! heh Some of the taller cases would be tall and stable enough for something like that, but let's face it . . . if it's next to the couch someone is going to put a drink on it . . . and inevitablly knock it over. Not a good choice. However, putting it next to or in the entertainment stack would look great. The powdercoat finish is superb and wouldn't look out of place with other electronics in the living room . . .IMO.

Good luck with your build. Feel free to ask any questions - use CaseLabs case owners love the product and will talk your ear off if given the chance (see proof above!)

Bear
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I was referred to CaseLabs cases from another site. I've been looking for a case for a storage server (20+ drive bays) for some time that does not have a rack-mount form factor. As far as I am aware, outside of some of the few-and-far-between cube cases or some of the slap-two-towers-together hacks, no such case exists. Someone mentioned your cases and I have to admit, it's the first one I've seen that could fit the bill!

Questions,

- what are your thoughts on using this case as a storage server for 20+ 3.5 inch drives, in terms of cooling, etc.?

- I'm a bit concerned about the case being very front-heavy if I went down this road; the builds I've seen are heavy GPU rigs with watercooling and radiators out back to counterbalance whatever drives are up front, but in my case this would be something like a single-socket Xeon with a whole bunch of drives. Is it possible to mount drives in all that empty space elsewhere in the case? Are there any provisions for this sort of configuration?

- I was wondering if handles are available or ever might be at some point, to lift and move such a thing.

- Silly question but given its size, with sufficiently quiet cooling, how does this hold up as impromptu living room furniture... say, like a makeshift end table next to a sofa to hold a remote or some such?

Thoughts on my silly questions would be appreciated!

Playing catch-up today The case is set up so you can use a 120mm fan with each drive cage (4 drives). Cooling should not be an issue. How much noise will be generated will depend on the choice of fans. An M8 can mount up 24 drives and still have one bay open.

The weight will be behind the front rubber foot, so the case should be pretty stable. The M8 is less than 20" high (with rubber feet) and 15" wide, so it's not going to tip over with a casual bump. There are no handles available, but I suppose you could improvise some. I would consider casters though, if you plan on moving it around much. BTW, our casters are rated @ 75 lbs (not the 35 lb ones our competition uses).

Consider a solid top if it's going to be in a place where things are likely to be set down on top of it. It will save your day when a can of soda tips over

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CaseLabs SMA8 LSI RAID Controller Software: Solidworks, Cinema4D, Octane Render, ... 
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Intel I7-6700K ASUS Maximus Gene VIII mATX Gigabyte GeForce GTX1070 Mini Crucual Ballistix 2400MHz DDR (64 GB) 
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