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Ive been having a strange problem since a couple of days after building my pc. The problem that I'm having is that, when doing nearly anything that involves video, my computer will cut out all of my accessories, like keyboard, mouse, and monitor, along with only allowing me to restart by unplugging my pc.
At first, i thought it was my drivers on my ATI 6870, so after changing the drivers multiple times, i decided to send it back and get an Nvidia gpu which I still had the same result with my PC but my computer did stay online for longer periods of time when playing games compared to my 6870 which also used more power.
I then decided it may be a software issue so to eliminate this idea, i reformatted my hard drive and the issue was still there though it still can be a software issue, more than likely it may not be.
I was then told that my wireless card may be getting bad packets so i took my wireless card out and plugged it in through an Ethernet cable and the problem still happened.
After this i switched my ram out to a completely new company and more gbs of it and still had the issue.
After this, i got a replacement for my 750W psu and there was still no difference.
I then took out an extra 6-pin plug that goes into my motherboard and my computer did last longer but still crashed. After this, i unplugged my dvd drive and lasted even longer but, in the end, i still crashed.
The last thing I have to switch out is my motherboard but the reason I don't think its my motherboard is because my computer can stay on for hours on end when I am not playing a game but if I were to play a game, my computer would cut out in a short while. Also, some games may take hours for it to cut out my computer compared to others, where it may take nearly 20 minutes.

Here are my specs:
CPU:AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.4G
Motherboard: MSI 890FXA-GD65 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0
Graphics Card: EVGA 02G-P3-1386-KR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Memory: (2x) G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) (8GB total)
Hard Drive:Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB
Power Supply: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V v2.2 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
Display: Samsung HDTV 24inch HDMI
Case:NZXT Guardian
Sound Card:Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio
Headphones:Razer - Carcharias Gaming Headset
Mouse:Logitech MX518
Keyboard:Logitech G510
Operating System:Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

Any help would be appreciated
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post #2 of 11
Seems you have replaced pretty much all except MoBo and CPU. Try those last pieces and you will see. Also try another keyboard+mouse?
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When I first started reading your post it seemed like a motherboard problem, and since it appears to be the only thing you haven't really troubleshooted, it might be. Your components can behave quite differently under load, and something may be going haywire. Unfortunately there isn't really an easy way to diagnose this unless you can borrow an AM3 mobo from someone/somewhere and try it out. Good luck.
 
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post #4 of 11
I would swap your USB devices first. They can also cause the problem. If not, it's gotta be the motherboard. Also, have you tried a different power outlet on a different fuse?
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it sounds like a power problem :s but youve replaced everything!! tried plugging it into a different outlet?/without a surge protector?
     
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I have tried 4 different outlets and still same issue with all. I did try today changing the keyboard and no success but after changing out the mouse, i still haven't crashed yet, hopefully this is the issue.

EDIT: nevermind about that, still cut out.
Edited by Darktrooper78 - 5/25/11 at 7:44pm
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I then took out an extra 6-pin plug that goes into my motherboard and my computer did last longer but still crashed.
That motherboard takes an 8-pin power plug, why are you using a 6-pin?

PCI plugs are usually 6-pin.
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There is a 8-pin and the 6-pin is for extra power.
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Ok, i still need help from you guys. I sent back the motherboard to MSI and they said there was no issues with it and i stress tested my cpu for 6 hours and nothing happened so what else could it be. I have replaced EVERYTHING. Could it possibly be that my power supply doesn't have enough voltage?
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I know you've replaced your psu, but do you have a multimeter you could double check the voltages with?

Maybe run it and watch the DMM and see if voltage is dropping just before it cuts out.

And I'm assuming you're at stock since you are having these issue?

So when this happens, the PC itself stays running? You just lose all connectivity with it, and you can't just hit the reset or power button to get out of that state?


Not sure if you have tried this, but pull everything out of the case. Do an out of case test with bare minimum(cpu,mb,ram,gfx,1 hd,kb,mouse), and see if you can replicate. If it runs fine add one piece of hardware at a time until all HDD's you want etc are all connected.


I mean, you've covered a good bit of the bases all ready. There has to be something, maybe the mb is fine but yet once say 4 USB devices get connected that for some reason is what causes the mb to fail. Not sure how or what tests MSI did/does to verify no errors in mb. If it's as simple as slapping a cpu in and running stress tests that may not do the job depending on where the defect is or what it's connected to.
Edited by rx7racer - 7/26/11 at 12:28pm
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