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These:http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=397

anyone have them? i was thinking if i upped the voltage to 1.65.. would cas 9 be possible?
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Originally Posted by badatgames18 View Post
These:http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=397

anyone have them? i was thinking if i upped the voltage to 1.65.. would cas 9 be possible?
Not too helpful because I don't have them, but I do have the 2x4gb 1600mhz CL9 ripjaw kit, and it's running at 2000mhz at 1.55v (I think, I must check - it's definitely below 1.65v) - so I'd say what you suggested was very possible.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...000CL11D-8GBXL

If you read the newegg review, someone was able to get it to 9 without modifying the voltage. Your mileage may vary.

Is there a reason why you are looking at these? If you're planning on purchasing them, there are much tighter timings available on cheaper sets. Corsair Vengeance as well as other ripjaw sets from G Skill would probably be a better fit for you.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...000CL11D-8GBXL

If you read the newegg review, someone was able to get it to 9 without modifying the voltage. Your mileage may vary.

Is there a reason why you are looking at these? If you're planning on purchasing them, there are much tighter timings available on cheaper sets. Corsair Vengeance as well as other ripjaw sets from G Skill would probably be a better fit for you.
i was planning on buying them primarily due to the fact they can run at 2133 natively and are a 8gb (2x4gb) kit.

Are there a similar kit of roughly the same price which are better?

EDIT: i don't see any newegg reviews
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I don't think you'll find something with tighter timings at 2133 if that's what you're planning on getting the kit for. Maybe someone with some better memory knowledge can chime in but I think there's a thread around here that tests the 'optimal' speed for ram vs timings and I believe it shows that going above a certain point has actually been shown to slow down your performance due to your timings having to be increased for the memory to be stable at such a high frequency.

Long story short - you will spend less money, and (correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think so) will achieve better results, whether it be benchmarking or gaming if you run with a lower latency kit at a lower than 2133 frequency. I'll try and dig up that thread in the meantime.

EDIT: here's the thread, it was actually referencing AMD platforms, but I imagine it to be true across the boards. I don't have much experience with intel overclocking.

http://www.overclock.net/amd-memory/...nificance.html


Here's the copypasta from the newegg review:

Perfect RAM at a Great Price!

Pros: Fantastic price, looks great, high bandwidth, low voltage, and zero errors with memtest86+ unlike my previous Corsair Vengeance. I was able to run this ram at 1866 @ 9 CAS with no voltage increase for an even higher latency at the expense of lower bandwidth.

Cons: 11 CAS at recommended bandwidth.

Other Thoughts: The 11 CAS may be high, but the actual latency is still less than 1600 @ 9 CAS. (9/1600 * 2000 = 11.25ns > 11/2133 * 2000 = 10.31ns).

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If I am correct, Intel platforms prefer faster speeds than tighter timings.
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Intel likes both higher frequency & tighter timings, there are 2133+ kits with better timings, but the price goes + with them. Most people don't really care about the extra performance from memory since it isn't as noticeable outside benchies as other upgrades could be.
Most of those 2133+ kits are rated at 1.65V though, think the timings on the OP kit are terrible to keep it at 1.5V, I would think they can run tighter with some extra vdimm.
    
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I'm not running a 8GB set, but the 4GB CL6 1600MHz set from GSkill overclocks extremely well and can easily run at 2133 speeds. My set is running at 2133 7-10-8-7 1T with 1.58v, and I haven't had any problems.

I can't tell a difference in 1600 @ 6-8-6-24 and 2133 @ 7-10-8-7. Both are very snappy and quick, but in bench testing the 2133 settings do very well. I wouldn't pay for 2133, but getting it out of a 1600MHz set is nice
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