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post #11 of 20
This is why we need PCIe 3.0
post #12 of 20
It would be good if it was added to the spreadsheet. I was wondering which boards have the 'PLX bridge' or don't have the problem and which do.

How does one know or find out?
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not many boards have the PLX bridge, but that is correct, there are only so many PCI-E lanes that can be used at one time.
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Originally Posted by iCrap View Post
Apparently MSI stuff sucks anyways... graphics cards ... motherboards etc... If you can, return it.
You continue to stay true to your username

I've owned one of their boards and currently have one of their graphics cards and i've been impressed so far. They've worked great. Only gripe is that the board was flexing a little and rebates take forever to come.
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Let's face it, most of MSI's motherboards are known to have a weak CPU power phase circuitry when compared to other brands...

Asus and Gigabyte have ELITE motherboards in comparison...
    
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yes GB and Asus have MUCH better mobos, but you get what you pay for.

When you goto GPUs tho, MSI has some of the best.
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post #17 of 20
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not many boards have the PLX bridge, but that is correct, there are only so many PCI-E lanes that can be used at one time.
Ok. I still would like clarification. Say, I have two video cards, Nvidia or ATI, they are the same so I will use them for SLI or Crossfire. I also have a PCI-e x1 sound card (in that slot) and want to use a HDD as an external so I want it plugged into eSATA or USB 3.0. Will any of those be disabled with that configuration?
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post #18 of 20
it depends on the motherboard at hand. A good thing for you to do is look at mobos you wanna buy and then goto the website and download the manual and look in there, the manuals are pretty good at giving you that kind of info in the first few pages, they iussualy have some type of schematic that shows what PCI-E lanes are attached too, either the PCH or the CPU or through a PLX bridge to the CPU
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post #19 of 20
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See the problem is that this type of information for the average consumer isn't easily accessible or even noted. Maybe I was glossing but in most reviews I failed to see this mentioned. I only caught it because the geek that I am bothered to spend time reading manuals, various reviews and all the tidbits of information before I even noticed it and that's saying something that it didn't jump out at me within the first read through of most of the information on this chipset.

Not saying I am some super genius, but I know I read more about products than Joe Schmoe might if I use my friends and family for reference...

I honestly think that this kind of information was more hidden than it should be. Not saying post a big warning banner - but have it noted somewhere more easily seen. At minimum my issue is with the review sites that failed to mention this in any tangible fashion.
    
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post #20 of 20
Exactly! I am not sure whether I'd need the extra feature but it bothers me that these companies are having their boards crippled (not sure that's the right word but sounds like it could be used) and that the provided slots are not usable in certain configurations.

These boards are around $200 and you can't use certain configurations even though the slots and ports are provided?!?

The only boards I know of providing full support and usability which have the integrated PLX PEX8608 chip is the Asrock P67 Extreme 4 and Asus P8P67 Deluxe. I don't know of any Z68 boards that have but apparently the Asrock Z68 boards do?

I think this is a result of companies cutting corners to reduce cost so I don't think we should reward these companies by getting their boards but I guess if you don't care that you don't have all the PCI-e lanes...
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