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Originally Posted by MarvinDessica;13640357 
If you're buying on buy the one in my sig, it's overclocked to the point it's just a GTX 570 anyway and you can save money. But it's up to you.
Yeah I was thinking that, to be honest. That model, too.

The conclusion I draw from this is that low-end GTX 570's are affected by this "death" issue or something, and have a pretty weak fan. And I simply can't afford a better one.

Therefore it would seem I'm not quit ready to venture into that mid-top market just yet. a 560Ti, or a 6950? Hmm...
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You mean 5850? The gtx 560 is better and the 2GB of VRAM that is has probably wont really matter to you or get you any more performance at 1080p unless you are planning on getting another monitor.
My apologies, all these numbers are so confusing. 6950.
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If I was buying a 570, I would definitely go for the msi twin frozr II Power edition. Best 570 out there imo, and looks good too.
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the ONLY problem with reference board is you can't go above a certain voltage.

if you dun plan to do crazy overclocks, you save money by getting the reference one.
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6950s and gtx 560s trade blows but I think the 6950 is slightly better performance (only like ~8 fps better in most games). But the 6950 also costs more and the 2GB of VRAM isn't going to really get you anything gaming with one monitor at 1080p. I think a good move for you would be to get a nice edition of the 560, say the MSI Hawk edition 560 which is even cheaper than the 6950 by a little bit. Later down the line, if you want to SLI you can. As far as I know, the 560s also have a bit better SLI scaling than the 6950s in CFX, but the 6950s are the overall faster card by a little bit(and more expensive).

As far as drivers go, I've only owned nvidia in my life so I can't offer up my opinion on amd/nvidia there.
Edited by h2beez - 5/25/11 at 11:36pm
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Originally Posted by Sheza;13640406 
Yeah I was thinking that, to be honest. That model, too.

The conclusion I draw from this is that low-end GTX 570's are affected by this "death" issue or something, and have a pretty weak fan. And I simply can't afford a better one.

Therefore it would seem I'm not quit ready to venture into that mid-top market just yet. a 560Ti, or a 6950? Hmm...

I have a 560 ti, this is possibly the best OC model out there for the price (259.99 on NewEgg.) and it performs at the same level of a 570 (In some cases even better, but not much just a few extra frames) and runs cool to boot.

6950 2GB is also a good choice IF you can find a one that unlocks to a 6970, if not, a 6950 1GB from Sapphire will be more than sufficient.
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6950s and gtx 560s trade blows but I think the 6950 is slightly better performance (only like ~8 fps better in most games). But the 6950 also costs more and the 2GB of VRAM isn't going to really get you anything gaming with one monitor at 1080p. I think a good move for you would be to get a nice edition of the 560, say the MSI Hawk edition 560 which is even cheaper than the 6950 by a little bit. Later down the line, if you want to SLI you can. As far as I know, the 560s also have a bit better SLI scaling than the 6950s in CFX, but the 6950s are the overall faster card by a little bit(and more expensive).

As far as drivers go, I've only owned nvidia in my life so I can't offer up my opinion on amd/nvidia there.

or you could get 1gb 6950 which is cheaper again.
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Palit own Gainward so there should be a similar card

^THIS^

palit = gainward [but cheaper rolleyes.gif]

palit sonic = gainward golden sample

palit sonic platinum = gainward golden sample glh [goes like hell]

here are a couple of reviews from tweaktown and hardwareheaven of the glh card, not too bad i'd say, i'm getting one soon biggrin.gif

EDIT: oh, both the palit and gainward cards are NON-REFERENCE
Edited by erik257 - 5/25/11 at 11:51pm
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Originally Posted by MarvinDessica;13640500 
I have a 560 ti, this is possibly the best OC model out there for the price (259.99 on NewEgg.) and it performs at the same level of a 570 (In some cases even better, but not much just a few extra frames) and runs cool to boot.

6950 2GB is also a good choice IF you can find a one that unlocks to a 6970, if not, a 6950 1GB from Sapphire will be more than sufficient.

You shouldn't really be scared of frying VRMs on the 570s, just read through the thread I posted before or get a non-reference version. The general consensus has been to leave OCP on and not really bump the voltage past 1.1v. To be really safe don't even go above 1.05v and you can still get an adequate overclock out of it. Probably around 850core on reference cards. You can always RMA also.

Lastly I'm pretty sure that no retail 6950s unlock to a 6970 anymore, you'd have to find one from someone else. The ones that did were the first revisions of the reference 6950s which I doubt can be found anymore, so don't go buying a 6950 hoping it will unlock.
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Sheza - If your not over clocking voltage then you'd be very safe to get yourself the GTX 570. There are a lot of people with them that don't have any issues. Most manufacturers offer a 3 year warranty anyway, and I'm sure even in England.

MSI, ASUS and EVGA are the preferred video cards in my opinion. I know that some countries have higher pricing on some cards that go for lower prices in the US. So look into anyone of those three and go with your budget.

I'd suggest non-reference 570 first and if it's out of your reach then a reference card will do nicely. Don't be scarred if your really looking into switching over. You will very close to the performance of an AMD 6970. The AMD 6970 doesn't OC as well either. So both cards have something in common.

Up to you in the end. IF your going to go lower performance then the AMD 6950 or the GTX 560ti are very good second choices. Since your going only one monitor at 1920x1080p then more vrm isn't going to improve your performance anyway.

Also keep in mind if you decide to go 3D gaming or 3D blu-ray movies, Nvidia does have the niche' for doing it better and doesn't need third party vendors in order to achieve 3D. They have a very strong 3D support in their drivers and driver issues are always almost non-existent.

Good luck in what ever you do. Do your homework and get what best fits your needs. Let us know which way you ended up going once you pull the trigger. Alway curious to know how things went with a user. Take care. smile.gif
     
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