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None of those quotes are actually from AMD and are just speculation. HardOCP say they want to show it off in July at their event; doesn't mean we won't know anything sooner. The only official word from AMD was that the roadmap had not changed.
That wasn't the point. You are reporting AMDs denial, while conveniently ignoring the article gives several sources that show no June launch is possible. (Like the print magazines - still not received a sample.)

You can't say a roadmap hasn't changed if you haven't set a date to begin with. You can't say it has, either (of course.) And that's the catch isn't it?

You're being disingenuous by not reporting the "but" side of the story.

We have people in the rumor thread saying the press has received samples - clearly they have not.

I will be pleasantly surprised at a June launch - but I'm not expecting it any time soon.
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That wasn't the point. You are reporting AMDs denial, while conveniently ignoring the article gives several sources that show no June launch is possible. (Like the print magazines - still not received a sample.)

You can't say a roadmap hasn't changed if you haven't set a date to begin with. You can't say it has, either (of course.) And that's the catch isn't it?

You're being disingenuous by not reporting the "but" side of the story.

We have people in the rumor thread saying the press has received samples - clearly they have not.

I will be pleasantly surprised at a June launch - but I'm not expecting it any time soon.
There is no "but" side of the story that hasn't been posted already. This was simply posted to provide an answer to the Bulldozer delayed news that was posted recently, not to mislead anyone.

I'd rather highlight the points in the article that are confirmed from AMD rather than speculation and rumor based on 3rd-party account.
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There is no "but" side of the story that hasn't been posted already. This was simply posted to provide an answer to the Bulldozer delayed news that was posted recently, not to mislead anyone.

I'd rather highlight the points in the article that are confirmed from AMD rather than speculation and rumor based on 3rd-party account.
Don't even try to argue with him as he won't see reason and is fixated on this "delay". As you say, the article's main point is AMD's official denial of the rumors. The rest of the article is conclusions/speculation drawn from rumor.
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Funny reading through this thread. AMD says release at the E3 2011. If thats June 11th, then chips should be in stores ready to sale by the end of the month. Nothing has changed. People are acting like AMD lied to them or something. Havent even given them a chance to meet there deadlines, which very seldom do any corporations actually hit those dates anyways.
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From the horse's mouth, now can we all just quit the bickering???


http://www.overclock.net/11712964-post283.html
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All we have said is Q2. There are 3 months each quarter, so you have a 33% chance of being right.
http://www.overclock.net/12053266-post421.html
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Q2 for client and Q3 for server is all that has been said.

There is tons of speculation but I would only trust official sources.
http://www.overclock.net/12103561-post435.html
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That article was not right.

We have said Q2 for client products since November of last year. Our CEO said "early summer." Summer begins in Q2.
http://www.overclock.net/12691379-post682.html
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It is taking as long as it takes.

Last year we said 2011. Then we said Q2 for client, Q3 for server. That continues to be the timeframe.

People are getting too impatient and thinking that there is some behind the scenes thing going on. The reality is that things continue to run on the same schedules.

We are following the exact same process as we always do. And actually saying more about the processor than we normally do. We never release the data you are all demanding prior to launch. Why should this be any different?
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Funny reading through this thread. AMD says release at the E3 2011. If thats June 11th, then chips should be in stores ready to sale by the end of the month. Nothing has changed. People are acting like AMD lied to them or something. Havent even given them a chance to meet there deadlines, which very seldom do any corporations actually hit those dates anyways.
When Thuban released last year, mine came two days later. The shops had been stock piling them for some time. It doesn't have to be weeks after launch before you see them.
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Aaannd rumor crushed.
    
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There is no "but" side of the story that hasn't been posted already. This was simply posted to provide an answer to the Bulldozer delayed news that was posted recently, not to mislead anyone.

I'd rather highlight the points in the article that are confirmed from AMD rather than speculation and rumor based on 3rd-party account.
Yes, there is. It's so important to the story it's in the title! "AMD Denies Bulldozer Delay BUT" not sure what's difficult to grasp about that.

Easy to deny a delay when you've never set a launch date.

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When Thuban released last year, mine came two days later. The shops had been stock piling them for some time. It doesn't have to be weeks after launch before you see them.
If the press has yet to receive *samples* I doubt the shops have received *retail* product.
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When Thuban released last year, mine came two days later. The shops had been stock piling them for some time. It doesn't have to be weeks after launch before you see them.
Exactly. Please recall in the period of December and January 08/09 respectively. Toronto Canada Computers had Deneb (940 and 920 Versions as far as I can remember) however they weren't officially disclosed or acknowledged that they had them before the Deneb launch. I believe the same will occur.
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Wouldn't press samples defeat the point of all the NDA's.
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