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The Source engine isn't the limitation - look what's being done with the Dear Esther mod. I honestly think Valve has been innovating the experience rather than the technical aspects, and I think they've been spectacularly successful.

They definitely aren't offering GPU smashing visuals.
i agree, they are delivering fine games, but would it hurt for them to deliver the entire package? They have the technology to do it, but arent, simply because its a bit more work. Thats one thing i dont approve of.

It just seems to me like the only devs taking risks or moving things forward are small/new developers trying to make a name for themselves. Everyone else is content to deliver the same old over and over again. Even valve is doing that, they are making DOTA on source, and all it is getting is a graphical overhaul, No new maps/items/heros or balance tweaks. It is an exact copy of the original game, just on source. I mean come on.
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i agree, they are delivering fine games, but would it hurt for them to deliver the entire package? They have the technology to do it, but arent, simply because its a bit more work. Thats one thing i dont approve of.
I see what you're saying.

Robert Briscoe (who is reworking Dear Esther) approached Valve, and they granted him a Source license to release the mod as a standalone game on Steam. I think the reason is obvious, it is a total showcase for what Source can still do.

Maybe they will take some notes.
    
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Posted this in the News section last night, though the source was IGN.

http://www.overclock.net/video-game-...360-rated.html
 
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Posted this in the News section last night, though the source was IGN.

http://www.overclock.net/video-game-...360-rated.html
Well you people are getting the wrong idea , i was saying that instead of accepting that TW2 is coming to consoles , they turn around and say "why are you upset?" and its not like there's no good reason for some of us being upset whilst being a snobby f**k and saying that it was built for console first.I do not want to associate myself with douchebag kids.

Anyway i did post in that but the majority of it got "cleaned up" by a mod.
    
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Well you people are getting the wrong idea , i was saying that instead of accepting that TW2 is coming to consoles , they turn around and say "why are you upset?" and its not like there's no good reason for some of us being upset whilst being a snobby f**k and saying that it was built for console first.I do not want to associate myself with douchebag kids.

Anyway i did post in that but the majority of it got "cleaned up" by a mod.
Yeah, I can understand that. What surprised me most about that thread was how everyone just sorta said "whatever" but when Crysis 2 was announced for consoles, everyone flipped their wig about it and how PC was losing all it's exclusives.

Here we are losing another, and they're just like "meh, whatever, everyone should get a chance to play it" etc etc.

Flip-flop much?

I personally won't care that it goes to the 360, as long as the devs continue to build for the pc and then port it. It's when devs start compromising simply to make quick bucks. I mean hell, PC is losing all it's good exclusives. Crysis, Witcher, and hell even STALKER 2 is going to be on consoles. BF is consolized now, although I still enjoy BC2 and can't wait for BF3. Where as most console exclusive IPs STAY exclusive. It's like a one-way street. PC gaming loses it's exclusives, but the consoles don't.
 
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You think so? My brother is 35 he just bought his first computer this year. My father doesn't have a computer. Some of my cousins don't own computers.

There are still a lot of people who don't have computer or have laptops only (and not the decent ones either).

For the general consumer out there the console is a much better option.

The problem again is you are approaching it from the perspective of someone who has computer knowledge. I have twelve cousins I am the oldest at twenty four and the youngest is around ten. I am the only on of them and the only one in my entire family that can build a computer.
First off, you're giving a few specific examples which amounts to nothing in an argument.

Second, for all these people who have neither a console or a PC, how on earth can you say that a console is the better option? A PC is a tool as well as a toy were a console is nothing but a toy. In a home w/o a PC or a console, a PC dwarfs the console in value as it can be used for many other things that can't currently be done in that household.
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A tv and couch are generally things people already have. Computer stuff (Monitor, Speakers, Keyboard-mouse ect..) not so much.

For using the TV method sure, but where are you going to put the keyboard and mouse?

My point is if you are going to build a $500 PC that performs like a xbox 360 why not just buy an xbox 360?
>buy $200 graphics card
>put into home PC
>better graphics for less price. Even if the processor was some pentium 4, its not like the console gamers would notice it's running at 30fps rather than 60 or more.

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Because the computer is infinitely more flexible AND does what the XBOX does better (outside of portability and ease of use). Most things a computer can do, an XBOX can't even do period.

They have their places, but you can't directly compare their value.

As a gaming solution ALONE - the XBOX is a better value to most. If you use computers, a console is redundant unless you want to play exclusives. That's my opinion anyway.
I feel the same way, but it makes me so infinitely frustrated that I cant play games like Infamous and Infamous 2, Uncharted 2, Gears of War 2, Red Dead Redemption and a few other ones which I really want to play, just because I dont have a console. I dont want to unnecessarily blow money on a console just so I can play a few games. I like my PC, I just wish exclusivity was illegal. All Games All Platforms is what I say.
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