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I am a massive fan of FSX and I want to minimise lag so I was going to upgrade from a

AMD Phenom I x4 9950 B.E 2.6Ghz to a

AMD Athlon II x4 640 3.0Ghz and Overclock

Would you Reccomend this ?
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post #2 of 17
I think you should have created a single thread to this and the OC capability of the 640

But no, the Phenom is still better. If you can OC the phenom a little, maybe a 640 OCed will match the 1st one.
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post #3 of 17
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Originally Posted by matroska View Post
I think you should have created a single thread to this and the OC capability of the 640

But no, the Phenom is still better. If you can OC the phenom a little, maybe a 640 OCed will match the 1st one.
No, the Phenom loses actually. No lie. At the same clock speed, the Athlon II is equal/barely slower than the Phenom. An Athlon II @ 3GHz will leave a first generation Phenom in the dust.

But no I wouldn't. I wouldn't go with anything less than an i3 2120 at the dead minimum.
     
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Originally Posted by Imglidinhere View Post
No, the Phenom loses actually. No lie. At the same clock speed, the Athlon II is equal/barely slower than the Phenom. An Athlon II @ 3GHz will leave a first generation Phenom in the dust.

But no I wouldn't. I wouldn't go with anything less than an i3 2120 at the dead minimum.

I misinterpreted the graphics, i switched colours Yeah, it's the oppposite
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post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
So you guys are saying that I shoudnt buy the Athlon despite its Higher core clocks and produces less Heat ?
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post #6 of 17
Performance wise, the changes doesn't doesn't justify the upgrade in our opinio. It would perform better, but not that distant of what you already have.
I would save the money and invest later in a Sandy-Bridge or Bulldozer.
Only if you were upgrading to a Phenom II X4 965 or a X6, and depending on how much it would cost you, the upgrade would be justified. But it is just my opinion, other may differ
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post #7 of 17
Thread Starter 
Well I have found a Cheap Athlon on the Internet 640 to be precise, And I have also found a Phenom II x4 at 3.4Ghz, Also the Phenom I dosent overclock well and the Athlon would probably get 3.4Ghz
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post #8 of 17
If you can buy the Phenom, don't hesitate

The 640 can probably reach 3.8Ghz, or a little more. Will just need a good cooler and a good board.
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post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 
Got a Good Cooler here and I need a new board anyway ?
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2x 500GB HDD's [RAID 0]  A Non-Branded DVD-DL Burner Zalman CNPSX 10 Performa Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit 
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post #10 of 17
You won't need a new board, that ones support the Phenom II chips. That cooler should be fine too. You just should refrain from OC that Chip too much due to poor Phase-Power desing of the board, and VRM cooling.
If you feel like buying a new board so you can perform a big OC on that chip, take a look at this thread to choose a good, safe board to your chip
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD2500AAKS WD3200AAKS WD10EARS WD3200JB 
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Asus DRW-1608P2 Asus DRW-1608P2 Corsair H70 Ubuntu Server 10.10 x64 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 ASUS VW193S Logitech EX100 LC-Power 650W 
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