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For years? Have you missed out the part where people say "It has degraded only after 1 month"?

:-P
They think that the lower nm = less voltage max. Progression in technology has allowd SB to be more 'resiliant' to higher voltage, although while not 100% tested anything under 1.5v for 24/7 and under 75'c in Prime95 should be fine for 5+ years.

I ran a Pentium 4 2.8Ghz HT at 75-86'c idle and load at something like 1.8v since 2002. Its still going.
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Yeah but a Pentium 4 isnt a 2600K.
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Exactly, its less optimized and has a higher chance of voltage AND high temps degrading the chip causing electro-migration. Hasn't run into any stability problems so far
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But you will, most likely. And so the question remains
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Prime95 Blend with 1.55-1.65v for voltage degradation test and IBT with updated Linpack highest stable overclock while keeping under 98'c (close as possible)

Hate to ruin your fun early, but you won't degrade them for years even at that.
Oh yes you will!

One folder had his cpu degrade from 5 ghz to 4.6 ghz after folding for about 3 months 24/7, at 5 ghz 1.52v.

He can't do over 4.6 ghz stable at that vcore anymore.
Not saying that will happen to your cpu, bit it seems like the bad clockers degrade more than the better clockers.

I GUARANTEE that if you do linpack at 90C at 1.6v loaded for a month, you will have VERY serious degradation of your max clocks. Chip will still work great at stock, sure...

Also Intel stated that you can (not will, but can) damage the IMC by running 1.65v ram with the vcore over 1.5v.
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But it has taken +9 years to do so (P4), so I'm sure you won't see it in such a small period of time

And who runs 1.65 on the RAM with 1.5+ Vcore O.o
I can overclock my RAM from CL9 to CL7 and undervolt it from 1.65v to 1.5
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I've seen worse. Someone in Sweden had his/her chip degrade after 3½ week, on a NEW chip.

It wasn't even amazingly overclocked. 4.6GHz, although from start he/she had to run over 1.4volts to reach even 4.5Ghz! So yes, it's a BAD chip but still. It degraded even MORE after a week at only 1.47volts for a completelly stable overclock.

We're talking 1.47volts for a stable tiny 4.6GHz overclock!
And guess what, just very recently as of yesterday it give him/her a 124!

So what actually caused it to degrade that much in such a short time?
He/she did no folding, or any real intensive tasks except for gaming. Newer games only. I recall he/she runs the 6870 or something.

An amateur and it was the first real overclock the person had done.
Asrock extreme 4 board, can't remember RAM brand though but I remember it was 1.65V modules. And not the recommended 1.5V modules. If that would have had anything todo with it..

So anyways, I'll keep quiet until the chip arrives and the torture begins.
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Interesting, makes me worried about my 4.8Ghz @ 1.375v XD
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good luck with the tests mate, i am subbing to make sure that it is COMPLETELY degraded
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I know its not my money, and i dont know if you would have the money to run identical test benches, but as a means of testing:

~ Find the the highest possible GHz (multi) on each CPU running 1.25v load (to keep the vcore the same to measure degredation) and use that as the degredation basis.
~ Running 2x 2600k's at the different test methods (on identical test beds, same RAM/Mobo/Cooler) i.e 1 on high temp 85-90 and the other on high vcore 1.52v load vcore and run the exact same testing method for 2-5days, then let the CPU's rest a day then test them again at the designated degredation basis... That way the ambient temps would remain equalised throughout the test...
~ Also, i would suggest F@H as it is a very common practice, and not everyone runs Blend/IBT/Small fft's for that long.

As stated, i have neither the OC'ing know-how (OC experience = ~ 18hrs total) or the funds to build two identical rigs to purposefully degrade two 2600k's simultaniously.

But i applaud you for spending your well yearned dosh to further the knowledge of OC'ing SB

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Cheers,

Ishi
Edited by Ishinomori - 5/27/11 at 5:27am
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