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Oh

i don't know...
i hope they adopt a whole new strategy with BD. Release a few good chips, not many, and take some time to finetune their new architecture before jumping on launching higher multis as new chips to "deceive" the market.
Well, that's a good marketing strategy, but they are not Intel. If this upcoming release makes a good impression, maybe they will going to be in the good start, if not, what can I say... old news.

Anyways, I still buying the latest and greatest which is the 8150P which I truly believe will beat 2600K benchmarks and real world.
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I surely hope so

their last FX series was a blast
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There's no need to get an 8170p when the 8150p is the same but with a lower clock speed. At launch they probably won't even be binned...
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There's no need to get an 8170p when the 8150p is the same but with a lower clock speed. At launch they probably won't even be binned...
You know how it is; People always want the latest and greatest, hence the words "want" and "need".

Which one would you want?

- An 8150P @ 5ghz with vcore up to the roof
- An 8170P @ 5ghz without even changing any voltage settings
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You know how it is; People always want the latest and greatest, hence the words "want" and "need".

Which one would you want?

- An 8150P @ 5ghz with vcore up to the roof
- An 8170P @ 5ghz without even changing any voltage settings
That's not what's going to happen though. As long as you get a chip that's the same revision, headroom will be the same. AMD doesn't work like Intel when it comes to binning. An i7 950 may be better than a 930, with more OCing headroom but a Phenom II 980 is just a Phenom II 955 that was stable at 3.7ghz .

In reality, most C3 revision Phenom IIs will easily do 3.7ghz with stock voltage (my CPU is a C2 revision and they have a wall).
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Actually, most 980s clock better than the 955/965 counterparts... pretty much like how any 1100T can reach a higher frequency without changing the volts than my own 1090T
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Actually, most 980s clock better than the 955/965 counterparts... pretty much like how any 1100T can reach a higher frequency without changing the volts than my own 1090T
I'd be willing to bet that a 1090T and an 1100T from the same batch stand a 90% chance of being able to hit the same clocks. The ones that are unstable at the 1100T's clocks on the stock cooler and at the stock voltage are sent to become 1090Ts or if they're really unlucky 1045Ts for OEMs.

The reason people buy the higher AMD chips is because they want to get rid of the possibility of getting a bad clocker. Intel's binning is quite a bit more meaningful. Back in the C0 and earlier Bloomfield days, you'd need an i7 940 if you wanted to be sure you were able to hit 4.0 ghz.

SandyBridge doesn't have as many models out on the market yet so there isn't as much binning right now, and when BD first comes to market there won't be much either.

The 8170Ps are going to come out in 2012 (probably Q1 or Q2) and so they'll likely be a different chip revision than the earlier 8130Ps and 8150Ps. However, when the new revision is launched the lower chips will be made using that revision once the back stock is gone.
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sorry guys i cant fold atm my psu is playing up and cant fold for idk how long
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sorry guys i cant fold atm my psu is playing up and cant fold for idk how long
What kind of PSU is it?
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What kind of PSU is it?
just a cheap one im going to have to wait and save up
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