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Hey guys, I'm building my first computer on my own as I've bought prebuilt in the past. I've been told from all my friends who are into computers that I should buy a SSD for my operating system and games. So I went ahead and purchased this setup. I know you guys don't need all this information, but I figured the more I provide the better you guys can help me out.

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As you can see the SSD I went with was the Intel 320 series and I also went with one Western Digital HDD. My question is basically directed towards installation, basically from what I've read is I want to set the BIOS into AHCI before the install and leave the HDD unplugged until the install is complete. Now in regards to what I change once the system is booted up, do I simply just plug in the HDD in and forget it? Or do I need to make some changes once the HDD is plugged in. I dont need to change to RAID right because im just using one HDD (Forgive me if Im wrong about this the whole HDD configuration has eluded me) So do I just leave it in AHCI mode or do I change it to IDE?

My second question is in regards to updating the firmware on the SSD, how do I go about doing this? I've read that updating the firmware deletes all the data on the SSD so how do I update the firmware?

My third question is in regards to setting up the SSD and HDD for storage, I read the sticky on the top of the page, but honestly, transfering over all the user data and whatnot is not that big of a deal for me. I only play 2-3 games at a time so the 120g on the SSD is more than enough. The only thing I'm going to use the HDD for is media (movies, music, pictures) When downloading music, it shouldn't be too difficult to have the music go into my HDD and not my SSD right? I simply just need to change the path where the music and videos get downloaded to? Or do I download the music and dvd on the SSD then just transfer them over after the fact? Sorry for all the questions, as you can tell, im quite new at this. After saying all this, do you guys recommend I still do the steps the author of the sticky on the top of the page did?


Thanks in advance, sorry for the wall of text, I just want to make sure I do everything right the first time.
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Very simple questions
You will need to setup in ACHI, stops problems down the track. I left my HDD plugged in and the install still went fine. But if you choose to take it out. Once it's in windows, plug the HDD in. Then disk management, right click the drive, new simple drive. And all done, windows can pick it up and use it as it will.

You don't need to play with RAID setting's by the way. Just leave it as ACHI.

Second question is something I can't help with. I've never updated mine because I live on the if it's not broke don't fix it. Sometimes they can be helpful but in my eyes it's not worth the trouble.

Thrid question. Try to keep the SSD with as little as possible on it. Games get next to no performance boost from being on an SSD as they can't really take advantage of them. I like to just have the OS and then put my most used apps on there and that's it.

Everything else goes to the HDD. You just need to change where the OS looks. Simple as that. Everything else should just work. If there's more questions don't hesitate to PM me
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Hey guys, I'm building my first computer on my own as I've bought prebuilt in the past. I've been told from all my friends who are into computers that I should buy a SSD for my operating system and games. So I went ahead and purchased this setup. I know you guys don't need all this information, but I figured the more I provide the better you guys can help me out.

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ASUS P8P67 DELUXE (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard


As you can see the SSD I went with was the Intel 320 series and I also went with one Western Digital HDD. My question is basically directed towards installation, basically from what I've read is I want to set the BIOS into AHCI before the install and leave the HDD unplugged until the install is complete. Now in regards to what I change once the system is booted up, do I simply just plug in the HDD in and forget it? Or do I need to make some changes once the HDD is plugged in. I dont need to change to RAID right because im just using one HDD (Forgive me if Im wrong about this the whole HDD configuration has eluded me) So do I just leave it in AHCI mode or do I change it to IDE?

My second question is in regards to updating the firmware on the SSD, how do I go about doing this? I've read that updating the firmware deletes all the data on the SSD so how do I update the firmware?

My third question is in regards to setting up the SSD and HDD for storage, I read the sticky on the top of the page, but honestly, transfering over all the user data and whatnot is not that big of a deal for me. I only play 2-3 games at a time so the 120g on the SSD is more than enough. The only thing I'm going to use the HDD for is media (movies, music, pictures) When downloading music, it shouldn't be too difficult to have the music go into my HDD and not my SSD right? I simply just need to change the path where the music and videos get downloaded to? Or do I download the music and dvd on the SSD then just transfer them over after the fact? Sorry for all the questions, as you can tell, im quite new at this. After saying all this, do you guys recommend I still do the steps the author of the sticky on the top of the page did?


Thanks in advance, sorry for the wall of text, I just want to make sure I do everything right the first time.

Update your firmware before you do your OS intall... To do this, save the new firmware file to a usb flash drive>restart and boot from flash drive>load firmware from flashdrive>follow instructions.

Set AHCI in BIOS before OS intall, set boot to CD drive

Insert win 7 cd, follow prompts

Change boot order to ssd first

After you install OS on SSD, you can plug in your HDD and use it for storage (can have it plugged in the whole time if you want).

Change paths for things like web browser downloads to your storage drive.

PM if you have quesitons.
    
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Second question is something I can't help with. I've never updated mine because I live on the if it's not broke don't fix it. Sometimes they can be helpful but in my eyes it's not worth the trouble.


Updating to the latest firmware is very important to maintain optimum performance.
    
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If your going to update the firmware do that before installing Windows on the drive.
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Thanks for the help guys, seems simple If I have any additional questions, Ill be sure to PM.
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Games get next to no performance boost from being on an SSD as they can't really take advantage of them.
I dont know how you figure this. Load times for games are heaps faster on SSD.
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The only games I plan to put on my SSD are MMOs like WoW and the upcoming SWTOR, games that have alot of load times.
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The only games I plan to put on my SSD are MMOs like WoW and the upcoming SWTOR, games that have alot of load times.
Yeh, you will get a lot of benefit from SSD in WoW. I liked how I would always get a Raid Leader when I join the BG first.
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Once you have windows installed you may for better ssd performance mount a virtual drive on the ssd and install big file games and things in it, big video files etc.

Maybe split the HDD size in half or whatever size you want. In windows go to program files x86 and make a folder call it what you like, games or stuff or something. go to disk management in admin tools .computer management right click the HDD and choose shrink space so say you shrink it by half, in options after its shrunk, click to mount in empty ntfs folder and browse to the folder you made in windows x86.

Once thats all done you will have a virtual folder on the ssd drive and anything you install into that will not be on your ssd only mirroerd there but you will get the same speed as if it was.

You can then make folders in that virtual folder and put all sorts into it, not hogging or using any space on ssd


NOTE: when you click to mount in empty ntfs folder name it same as you have the folder in program files x86 and do not assign a drive letter to it, I forgot that bit

so if youve done it right you end up with something looking like the STUFF shortcut in my x86 folder

Edited by moonmanas - 5/27/11 at 3:24am
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