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Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 is more of the 'budget' line up for Gigabyte. Meaning its just not really made for OC. There is a reason why it has a much lower price than the other Z68 boards out there which are usually over 200 dollars. Its not about the capabilities of the chipset P67/Z68, its more of what the board can achieve and offer. Cheaper boards obviously are made for more 'stock' setting customers, gamers/OC customers tend to pay more for boards that are 200+ dollars level of boards to achieve their needs.

Wow so you gave him your stuff and he hasn't paid yet? You just let him drive off with your stuff? This doesn't make sense at all, am I missing anything here?
Yes, he paid me cash on the spot. I just wanted to make sure his box got up and running so I didn't have to refund.

And that makes sense. I know its missing some of the finer tweaks available for controlling specific voltages and such. Will the hardware hold up for a decent OC? Does it just make it more clumsy to get there? Or will the hardware likely fail when trying to OC?
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You probably might not get as high as an OC as others have on here. OC has to do with both your cooling system and the equipment you got. I can't comment on the other Z68 boards, but for example the one I got, GA-Z68X-UD4-B3. It has huge heat sinks and 12 phase power around the cpu socket. This will enable the OC to be more stable and cooler hence higher numbers. So even if you have liquid cooling, your board might prevent you OC any high numbers, as you crank up the voltages and multipliers the board just won't cool efficiently or able to keep the power stable hence your system crashing.

In simple terms, its like having a huge intercooler (liquid cooling/huge heat sink)in your car with a huge turbo booster (i5-2500k) installed, but then your engine (motherboard) isn't built for the extra power, then the car's engine will like blow up and crash
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You probably might not get as high as an OC as others have on here. OC has to do with both your cooling system and the equipment you got. I can't comment on the other Z68 boards, but for example the one I got, GA-Z68X-UD4-B3. It has huge heat sinks and 12 phase power around the cpu socket. This will enable the OC to be more stable and cooler hence higher numbers. So even if you have liquid cooling, your board might prevent you OC any high numbers, as you crank up the voltages and multipliers the board just won't cool efficiently or able to keep the power stable hence your system crashing.

In simple terms, its like having a huge intercooler (liquid cooling/huge heat sink)in your car with a huge turbo booster (i5-2500k) installed, but then your engine (motherboard) isn't built for the extra power, then the car's engine will like blow up and crash
Fair enough. I think this board is probably just very average and middle of the road. There are worse, and obviously lots better. I am running a very stable 4.3 on the i5 2500k now, so I am happy, only had to increase the voltage one increment, thanks to the brilliant engineering of this chip :-) Thanks for the information. Hopefully this card will get me where I need to go, I will never use this rig for a monster overclocker anyway... it's my everyday machine. Some day, when I have lots more money, I will build something like that massive desk-build I saw.
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Congrats! You got your i5-2500k! Hope you enjoy your system its quite decent and powerful =)

Next upgrade down the road is SSD, and you are all set! Good Luck !
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Congrats! You got your i5-2500k! Hope you enjoy your system its quite decent and powerful =)

Next upgrade down the road is SSD, and you are all set! Good Luck !
Yah! Thanks for following up! I am pretty excited. It worked out perfectly, I sold a guy the parts I was complaining about because he needed them for a client build (HTPC so no OC-ing needed.) He bought my old mobo and memory (which were impulse buys) and the chip. The mobo ended up not posting, bent pin I think. So I refunded some cash back, but he kept the chip and memory, so I only had to pay $10 more to get my 2500k. Running rock stable and cool at 4.3!

Oh, and I cannot wait for SSD. Still doing some research, the longevity and high price/GB concerns me still. What are your thoughts on the best SSDs and what programs should you put on them?
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Yah! Thanks for following up! I am pretty excited. It worked out perfectly, I sold a guy the parts I was complaining about because he needed them for a client build (HTPC so no OC-ing needed.) He bought my old mobo and memory (which were impulse buys) and the chip. The mobo ended up not posting, bent pin I think. So I refunded some cash back, but he kept the chip and memory, so I only had to pay $10 more to get my 2500k. Running rock stable and cool at 4.3!

Oh, and I cannot wait for SSD. Still doing some research, the longevity and high price/GB concerns me still. What are your thoughts on the best SSDs and what programs should you put on them?
You seem to do A LOT of impulse buying LOL. Plan and research before buying anything bro...save you tons of money and time.

Crucial M4 SATA3 64 gb ... its $119.00 on sale right now on newegg.com. This one of the better ones I read so far and at a much lower price.

Don't bother with the OCZ Agility 3 or Solid 3. If you were to get OCZ get Vertex3, but then they only come in 120gb and up, and cost an arm and leg.

The Corsair Performance 3 is good too, but more pricey then the Crucial so I prefer to buy the M4.

Stick with SATA3 since your motherboard supports SATA3 so you can transfer at maximum rate. I currently own the OCZ Vertex 2 120gb. I will eventually get a Crucial M4 64gb one too, but since I am not in a hurry and I already invested in the OCZ vertex 2 I will wait till the Crucial M4 to drop to $100, then I will pick up a M4 as my boot drive and use the OCZ Vertex 2 to boot my games.

As for what to put in the SSD, basically the Windows OS and all your applications you boot programs from ie. Office, Photoshop, internet browser, etc... you get the idea. Have all your documents, pictures, videos, games on your larger mechanical hard drive. If you can pick up a good mechanical hard drive with higher cache memory and 7200 rpm. I don't know what you have, but then if its recent purchase then it should be more than sufficient.

Laslty don't measure the value of a SSD by the price/GB. It be foolish to measure the benefits of the SSD by that. Basically many powerful gaming / processing machines are bottleneck by the hard drive. The single best purchase for a computer IMO, is getting a SSD. I built many computers for friends, and I tell them all to budget a SSD into the computer because you spend so much $ on the gaming comp, and then cheap out the last $100 for the SSD, its basically wasting the computer IMO. Also the 'lifetime' of SSDs don't let others scare you. If something going break its going break no matter what. Its just luck of the draw. Plus in the computer world as your hobby, you probably going upgrade it before it actually even breaks.

Hope this helps
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You seem to do A LOT of impulse buying LOL. Plan and research before buying anything bro...save you tons of money and time.

Crucial M4 SATA3 64 gb ... its $119.00 on sale right now on newegg.com. This one of the better ones I read so far and at a much lower price.

Don't bother with the OCZ Agility 3 or Solid 3. If you were to get OCZ get Vertex3, but then they only come in 120gb and up, and cost an arm and leg.

The Corsair Performance 3 is good too, but more pricey then the Crucial so I prefer to buy the M4.

Stick with SATA3 since your motherboard supports SATA3 so you can transfer at maximum rate. I currently own the OCZ Vertex 2 120gb. I will eventually get a Crucial M4 64gb one too, but since I am not in a hurry and I already invested in the OCZ vertex 2 I will wait till the Crucial M4 to drop to $100, then I will pick up a M4 as my boot drive and use the OCZ Vertex 2 to boot my games.

As for what to put in the SSD, basically the Windows OS and all your applications you boot programs from ie. Office, Photoshop, internet browser, etc... you get the idea. Have all your documents, pictures, videos, games on your larger mechanical hard drive. If you can pick up a good mechanical hard drive with higher cache memory and 7200 rpm. I don't know what you have, but then if its recent purchase then it should be more than sufficient.

Laslty don't measure the value of a SSD by the price/GB. It be foolish to measure the benefits of the SSD by that. Basically many powerful gaming / processing machines are bottleneck by the hard drive. The single best purchase for a computer IMO, is getting a SSD. I built many computers for friends, and I tell them all to budget a SSD into the computer because you spend so much $ on the gaming comp, and then cheap out the last $100 for the SSD, its basically wasting the computer IMO. Also the 'lifetime' of SSDs don't let others scare you. If something going break its going break no matter what. Its just luck of the draw. Plus in the computer world as your hobby, you probably going upgrade it before it actually even breaks.

Hope this helps
Thank you so much! You've been a huge help. And those other purchases were all done at once (one big impulse buy of chip, mobo). It just turned out that the memory I had didn't play nice with the Sector 5 on Memtest, so I put that into the package I sold to help bump the price. It was good RAM.

The info on the SSD is great. I am definitely going to take my time and do some research. Your points are great, and the examples are fantastic. Going to keep my eye on all of these for the time being. Thanks again!
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