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So my laptop is showing its age finally, and the last PC desktop I owned was back in the days of the Pentium 4. The computer will get used for a myriad of things:

Engineering Applications
  • MathCAD
  • MatLab
  • AspenPlus (hopefully not too much of this one)
  • Solidworks

Graphic Design
  • Adobe Creative Suite - PS, AI, ID, FL
  • Blender

Video Production - Currently minimal
  • Adobe AfterEffects
  • Adobe Encore
  • Adobe Premiere Pro

Music Production
  • Reason
  • Adobe Soundbooth
  • Ableton
  • FL Studio Pro
  • Traktor

Gaming - Do I really need to list? I'll go with a range instead.
  • From the Deus Ex of 2000 all the way up to Deus Ex of 2011

Potential Future Upgrades
  • XFire
  • EyeFinity setup (3x1)
  • SSD boot drive (when their prices come down, naturally)
  • WC loop
  • RAID10 array for storage


I've listed parts below. Input would be welcome!


CPU
Intel Core i5 2500K: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115072

Mobo
ASUS P8P67 WS Revolution: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131714

PSU
Enermax MODU87+ 900W PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817194080

Video Card
MSI Radeon HD 6970 Lightning: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127581

HDD
WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA III HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136533

RAM
G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231460

Disk Drives
LiteON 4x BluRay Reader/Combo Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106325

Case
Corsair Obsidian 800D: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811139001

Thanks for your help and advice in advance!

-Ricco
post #2 of 14
there are a few changes I would personally make to that build. the first is I would use a 2600K instead of the 2500K since your going to be doing alot of editing and cpu intensive stuff. I would also change that PSu to a Corsair AX850W. It will handle 2x6970's,is modulear and all that. Other then that it looks like a solid build.

(Btw,Your temps might be a bit higher when you use air in the 800D then you think. it's not really an air case.But when you water cool it's amazing because of how damn big it is!)
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You should get the i7 2600k since you're using many multi-threaded applications, you also should get the ASRock P67 EXTREME4 (B3) instead since I think the ASUS you chose is rather overpriced.

As for a GPU, you should look into the Radeon 6950 or GTX 570 instead.

Everything else is fine.
Edited by born2bwild - 5/26/11 at 7:32pm
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Looks like a good build.

But. I would have to agree with all the heavy work you are doing a 2600k will be a massive help. Two more cores that nearly all of those apps will be taking advantage of.

Another thought, some of those apps actually make some nice use of CUDA from Nvidia. It might be a good option to look into a Nvidia card in this case just to get the max performance you need from those applications. Mainly the Adobe suite. But to do the eyefinity part of the setup you would need to SLI two Nvidia cards together so...

Yeh maybe not. Becomes a much more expensive setup.

Also get an SSD I'm telling you right now. You will never go back on it. I know it's in the future. But I would get it now. Set up the OS and those apps you have listed or at least the Adobe suite and boot times and app start times drop to under 3 seconds. Plus general use is sped up.

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Thanks for all the replies! I talked myself out of the 2600K down the 2500K mainly because of the 90-100 USD price difference, for only HT and a 0.1 GHz stock clock speed increase. If productivity and times will greatly be enhanced by the i7 though, I might as well spend the extra coin.

Thanks for all the input, and sorry all for the long reply haha.

@stormwin11 - Regarding the PSU, I did look into the Corsair you mentioned - the Enermax is modular and 900W - both of which were the points you made regarding the Corsair. Is there any other reason I should go with Corsair? Both are respected companies... As for the case, I am aware of the higher temps that can occur. I've also picked out a full compliment of fans to fill out the case, and I will be putting in a LC loop within the year, I think.

@born2bwild - I looked into that ASRock board, per reviews on Tom's; I am inclined towards the ASUS because of the NF200 chipset. Running 2 way CrossFire at x16/x16 with 3x1 EyeFinity saw noticeable gains when compared to x8/x8. The dual LAN with Intel chipsets is also a draw, due to the incredible network on campus, and the constant need to remote desktop or otherwise be on the network for bandwidth-intensive reasons. And I don't have any legacy PCI devices I need slots for. Price tag isn't so much an issue as looking to the future, and functionality for the upgrades I plan to implement.

About the video card - why the 6950 or the GTX 570? I would have gone with a 6950 if the models available now were unlockable, but that seems to have gone by the wayside with the second revision of cards. I'm open though, no bias either way.

@hellboy_101 - How effective and how much of a difference would CUDA make? If you're discussing cost prohibitiveness, yes that was my main fear, but I do plan on 2x cards in the future - which would coincide with the EyeFinity setup. That's in the cards already :] Now, the SSD... I do love how fast they are, but for the drive space: W7 Ultimate: 8 GB, full Adobe Master Suite (CS5.5): 13 GB, audio software: aprox. 15 GB with all modules installed (I need my synths!) - that puts me at a little over 32 GB, so I'd look at a 40 GB, and those are around 100 USD currently. Plus another drive for other programs (not entirely sure how that works, esp with the registry, etc.), so say a 500 GB. Data is all external on USB 3.0, I'll snag a cheap 1 TB drive when the Egg puts em on sale. So really my main concern is cost and the 'separate' drive for other programs. Any resources on that by any chance?
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Originally Posted by hellboy_101 View Post
a 2600k will be a massive help. Two more cores that nearly all of those apps will be taking advantage of.
Two more cores? What? It's hyper threading, which is the duplication of processor registers. Not additional cores.

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cKmKy, please use the edit button.
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will the SB support the next intel cpus?
    
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Apologies for lack of editing, been a long day - normally I'm better about that. Won't happen again.

And perhaps hellboy was thinking the i5 I was referring to was a dual core? I'm aware of the difference between HT and physical cores and the advantage it provides in specific applications though, so either way I understand the point about the i7 Gen. 2 chips vs. the i5 Gen 2 chips.

@rheicel: Do you mean the SB 1155 socket? If so, I've been wondering the same thing. I've heard both sides of the story - that Ivy will and wont. Based on the socket change (which was architecturally required) I think that their new approach to chip design will be implemented in Ivy, and hopefully whatever comes beyond that. I'm planning on my 2500k/2600k to last at least 3, hopefully 4 years, at which point it will be likely time for a new CPU, and based on trends in the past despite promises from ***** (any) corporation, probably a new Mobo. But we can hope for the utopia where the socket never changes and RAM is given away for free on street corners. Oh wait, I think we're already there on the second of those
Edited by cKmKy - 5/26/11 at 11:10pm
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Now I know a lot of people just go into every new build thread saying wait for this wait for that, but in your case I really think it would benefit you to wait and see what BD offers. The reason I say this is because of the large range of software you're using that would benefit from more cores.

I would never recommend a hex-core 1366 because of their price, but they still beat SB in multi-threaded apps. With 6 and 8 core BD versions I think you can expect multi-threaded apps to be an area of strength for BD. Of course, that's not saying SB would be bad - I'm sure you'd be completely happy with one. But 4 cores vs 8 cores could mean a substantial difference in many of those programs you listed - definitely more substantial than 4 cores vs virtual 8 cores via HT.
Edited by Iceman23 - 5/27/11 at 7:38am
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Yeah happy with that.
change 2500K for 2600K
spare cash get some more ram. maybe 12GB. 1600Mhz min.
watercool
800D
kthanxbye

i do/planning to do same programs as you. FL studio sooooo cool.
    
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