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Alright, so as much as I don't want to spend this money, summer is coming up and ambients are ridiculous.

Anyways...

Here is a complete full list of absolutely everything I need for my water cooling setup.

All prices include shipping, tax, and discounts.

Please tell me if I'm missing anything or if I have a wrong part somewhere.

More importantly, tell me if I'm overspending on one thing or if I should buy another alternative so avoid spending so much.


Jabtech
-XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 Kit $192.22
Total $192.22

FrozenCPU
-EK VGA Supreme HF x2 $125.98
-Ramsinks for GPUs w/ thermal pads x2 $33.98
-Clamps x10 $10
-G1/4" to 1/2" barbs x4 $11.80
-Fan splitter for fan controller x2 $13.98
-Silver kill coil $6.99
-Discount -5%
-Shipping for all of the above items $13.13
Total $189.53

Amazon
-

, 7/16 ID" and 5/8" OD $16.25
- $189.99
- x5 $42.90
- $51.45
- $13.40
- $9.75
Total $323.74

What I already have and do not need:
-Thermal paste
-ArctiClean
-Materials to clean loop before installation
-Distilled water

Grand total: $705.49

Projected sales:
-Antec 900 $50
-Corsair H50 $50
Net total -$90

Edited by kiwiasian - 5/27/11 at 10:11pm
post #2 of 10
corrections:

reusable 5/8" OD hose clamps - complete garbage. either get bitspower compression fittings, or run to the local hardware store and get some worm drive hose clamps. hell, zip-ties will work better than those garbage ass plastic clamps


fan controller - the one you listed is garbage - get one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811995075 it's a REAL rheobus/rheostat fan controller that actually regulates the fan voltage from 0-12v, rather than adjusting the PWM (pulse width modulation) of the fan - essentially pulsing 12v to the motor at different intervals (this will cause a lot of fans to emit a buzzing noise from the motor then down volted)


edit:

that XSPC watercooling kit you posted - drop that too. the submersible pump/reservoir combo is garbage as well. With the EK CPU block - look into getting an EK CoolWave radiator - they're cheap and offer extremely good performance (comparable to the Black Ice SR-1 series). EK's DCP series of pumps & integrated pumps/reservoirs are great pumps to use on a budget, otherwise look into picking up a Laing D5/MCP-655 vario pump and a separate reservoir, and you'll end up with much better performance than you would with that XSPC kit
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reusable 5/8" OD hose clamps - complete garbage. either get bitspower compression fittings, or run to the local hardware store and get some worm drive hose clamps. hell, zip-ties will work better than those garbage ass plastic clamps
Thanks

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Originally Posted by CrimsonMango View Post
fan controller - the one you listed is garbage - get one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811995075 it's a REAL rheobus/rheostat fan controller that actually regulates the fan voltage from 0-12v, rather than adjusting the PWM (pulse width modulation) of the fan - essentially pulsing 12v to the motor at different intervals (this will cause a lot of fans to emit a buzzing noise from the motor then down volted)
The Lamptron FC5V2 controls the voltage from 0-12v. Check their website, it is listed in the specifications. The FC5V2 is known as one of the few "good" fan controllers that actually regulates the voltage as you said.

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that XSPC watercooling kit you posted - drop that too. the submersible pump/reservoir combo is garbage as well. With the EK CPU block - look into getting an EK CoolWave radiator - they're cheap and offer extremely good performance (comparable to the Black Ice SR-1 series). EK's DCP series of pumps & integrated pumps/reservoirs are great pumps to use on a budget, otherwise look into picking up a Laing D5/MCP-655 vario pump and a separate reservoir, and you'll end up with much better performance than you would with that XSPC kit
I would love to go that route, but what is holding me back is cost. Hell, I'm already $200 over budget. (I guess I will have to ditch WCing the second GPU)

If you can fit all of that under $192.22, I will be more than happy to buy it. But if not...I'm sticking with the XSPC.
post #4 of 10
well, the sunbeam controller has more channels, and is $20 cheaper than the lamptron controller you have listed above

EK 120.3 rad: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=26777

EK DCP 4.0 pump: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=26773

EK DCP 4.0 combo reservoir: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=26774



OR - here's an EK kit complete with Supreme HF CPU block, DCP 4.0 pump + reservoir, 120.3 radiato, tubing, fittings, fans, etc: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=30020

just add GPU blocks and you're good to go


that will DEFINITELY save you money from the XSPC kit plus the parts you originally listed
    
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well, the sunbeam controller has more channels, and is $20 cheaper than the lamptron controller you have listed above

EK 120.3 rad: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=26777

EK DCP 4.0 pump: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=26773

EK DCP 4.0 combo reservoir: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=26774



OR - here's an EK kit complete with Supreme HF CPU block, DCP 4.0 pump + reservoir, 120.3 radiato, tubing, fittings, fans, etc: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=30020

just add GPU blocks and you're good to go


that will DEFINITELY save you money from the XSPC kit plus the parts you originally listed
In the end the Sunbeam will cost the same after tax in shipping. Unfortunately I live in CA

Also, I checked the website and looked over the included contents. Here is a breakdown of what it has, in comparison to the XSPC kit:

EK H3O kit incl.
-CPU block
-360 rad
-Yate Loons (idk how many)
-Pump
-Res
-Tubing
-Fittings
-Coolant
-TIM

XSPC kit incl.
-CPU block
-360 rad
-Generic fans (probably crap)
-Pump/res
-Crap tubing
-Fittings
-TIM

In addition to that kit, in my original shopping list I decided to replace the following in the kit:
-Tubing
-TIM
-Fans

After considering all this I really don't understand how the EK is a better deal. Sure it has better components but do I need anything better? I'm just trying to keep the cost down, hence why I just took out one GPU from the loop.

+REP
Edited by kiwiasian - 5/26/11 at 8:20pm
post #6 of 10
if you're spending money on a watercooling system, you'd be better off spending a couple more bucks now and getting better components, rather than buying some crappy parts that you're just going to replace down the line.

that EK setup is perfect, just add a couple of GPU blocks (just WC both of them... there's no sane person that's only going to WC one of their cards and leave the other one on air) - if you're really worried about saving money, just set up a CPU loop, and then upgrade the system to include GPU blocks down the line.
    
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if you're spending money on a watercooling system, you'd be better off spending a couple more bucks now and getting better components, rather than buying some crappy parts that you're just going to replace down the line.

that EK setup is perfect, just add a couple of GPU blocks (just WC both of them... there's no sane person that's only going to WC one of their cards and leave the other one on air) - if you're really worried about saving money, just set up a CPU loop, and then upgrade the system to include GPU blocks down the line.
Alright, thanks for the advice. I will consider the EK kit, and I'll probably have to cut down other parts of the build in order to keep costs down. I'll probably save the fan controller for later.

I know it's really strange to have one card under water and the other on air...but when you're on a budget, you're on a budget, right?

Anyone else want to chime in with opinions?
post #8 of 10
Personally I'd see if you really need to cool the cards now. Are you overclocking them out of need, just for fun, or are they just too dang loud? If it's just for fun, may as well go CPU only loop now (as I am really soon) and upgrade later, but make sure you buy parts (like the EK kit I guess) so it's not a replacement, it's an upgrade.

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post #9 of 10
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My GPU temps are just out of control. I'm overclocking, it's loud, and my temps suck.

Partially to blame for my POS case too, but...might as well upgrade its cooling while I'm at it.
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Bump, still need feedback before I buy.
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