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So my sig rig basically dying and or is dead. im pretty sure its either a bad bios or a bad cpu. looking back at the 775 era i do not feel it is worth sticking with any longer. i have basically rode it out until the end.

I am looking to do a complete platform change. I am not interested in AMD at all. from what i have seen the 2500 and 2600k appear to be this generations OC chip of choice. if there is something else out there that i should know please educate me. as of now im leaning more towards the 2600k. after all i really love my hyper-threading for facebook

my big issue motherboards. so far every mother board i have looked at just seems really craptastic. its like we have hit an era where boards are all about bells and whistles that you don't really need and sacrificing stuff that we want. i was looking at the asus p8p67 does not look to be a bad board. however, you would think by now we would be able to have a board that has at least 2x16 pci-e. i still don't understand why we have to run 2x8 when it comes to the lanes. i also do not like the fact that it has a 3rd slot that shares with another. i mean really. seriously honestly. ive notice these trends with a lot of boards. so i guess im just looking for some suggestions on what boards would be solid for cracking 5ghz on a day to day usage pc. probably a 24/7 setup. I really have decided to avoid SLI. guess that resolves the 2x16 problem.

ive looked at the ud7 from gigabyte. don't think i want to venture that kind of cash into a board that i just am not feeling i will be pleased with. the last few boards i rocked out with are the p5k-e wifi (current board) and the p4p800 deluxe. both of which are asus and both of which were massive overclocking boards with great features.

I Have noticed that i have not seen a tri-channel ddr3 board for these setups either. did i miss something. was tri channel ddr3 a fad that just wasnt worth it. or why am i not able to find a motherboard that supports it on these platforms.

So i think you guys have a pretty good idea what i am looking at getting accomplished. I apologize if a lot of this information is spread over the forums which im sure it is. however, with a down pc it makes it really hard to dig into the research i wish to do on my own. so a little spoon feeding might be in order.

Thanks in advance for your replies. your insights and suggestions i look forward to reading them
    
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They kinda realised that Tri-Channel was a waste of time, lol.

If you're going with the single card setup then the P8P67 is the way to go.

And I would have to recommend the i5 over the i7. However, you are a folder so the i7 would give you a big boost on your PPD.

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They kinda realised that Tri-Channel was a waste of time, lol.
Right, that's why 2011 is including quad channel .

1155 is a mainstream socket. For mainstream users dual-channel is sufficient. Synthetic benchmarks aside, it doesn't do much.
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So my sig rig basically dying and or is dead. im pretty sure its either a bad bios or a bad cpu. looking back at the 775 era i do not feel it is worth sticking with any longer. i have basically rode it out until the end.

I am looking to do a complete platform change. I am not interested in AMD at all. from what i have seen the 2500 and 2600k appear to be this generations OC chip of choice. if there is something else out there that i should know please educate me. as of now im leaning more towards the 2600k. after all i really love my hyper-threading for facebook

my big issue motherboards. so far every mother board i have looked at just seems really craptastic. its like we have hit an era where boards are all about bells and whistles that you don't really need and sacrificing stuff that we want. i was looking at the asus p8p67 does not look to be a bad board. however, you would think by now we would be able to have a board that has at least 2x16 pci-e. i still don't understand why we have to run 2x8 when it comes to the lanes. i also do not like the fact that it has a 3rd slot that shares with another. i mean really. seriously honestly. ive notice these trends with a lot of boards. so i guess im just looking for some suggestions on what boards would be solid for cracking 5ghz on a day to day usage pc. probably a 24/7 setup. I really have decided to avoid SLI. guess that resolves the 2x16 problem.

ive looked at the ud7 from gigabyte. don't think i want to venture that kind of cash into a board that i just am not feeling i will be pleased with. the last few boards i rocked out with are the p5k-e wifi (current board) and the p4p800 deluxe. both of which are asus and both of which were massive overclocking boards with great features.

I Have noticed that i have not seen a tri-channel ddr3 board for these setups either. did i miss something. was tri channel ddr3 a fad that just wasnt worth it. or why am i not able to find a motherboard that supports it on these platforms.

So i think you guys have a pretty good idea what i am looking at getting accomplished. I apologize if a lot of this information is spread over the forums which im sure it is. however, with a down pc it makes it really hard to dig into the research i wish to do on my own. so a little spoon feeding might be in order.

Thanks in advance for your replies. your insights and suggestions i look forward to reading them
You want a really stable board?
Go with the P67A UD5. Get some P67 certified gskill 12800 cas 9 1.5v ripjaws RAM, flash the main and backup bioses to version F3G, and you're good to go. Just don't try using sleep mode with Internal PLL Overvoltage enabled (make sure this is set to disabled, NOT auto, until you need to pass a multiplier wall (about 500 mhz higher available) by turning it on. Use C1E or EIST, set your offsets correctly and enable LLC1 so your idle voltage isn't that much higher than your load voltage, disable C3/C6 to avoid possible crashes (they drop the vcore at light loads inappropriately for the current speed sometimes), and you're good to go.

I know the Z68 UD5 is out, but the vcores with the 10 multi-step loadline levels on the newer P67 bioses and all the Z68 boards (no option to step back to older two level LLC) are simply more unstable and erratic than on the older bioses. Many people who were using LLC7, for example, were having the vcore spike up a lot at light load and then drop back down at heavy load (example: 1.45v BIOS->1.45v idle, 1.476v light load, 1.45v heavy load...)

You also can't use LLC (for some reason) on the 10 level multistep LLC bioses if you're using DVID (offsets), so you wind up having to have a high light load vcore or raising your offsets to compensate for vdroop.

On F3G bios, level 1 LLC works great in combination with offsets and C1E at high overclocks (1.1v idle, 1.52v light load, 1.5v heavy load), and nicely for reducing vdroop at lower overclocks (like 1.25v), and LLC2 works nice for fixed voltages at high overclocks without c1e or eist (1.410v BIOS LLC2=1.428v idle, 1.440v load, etc).

If you want S3 sleep with PLL overvoltage (not the same thing as pll voltage) enabled, though, you'll need BIOS F5 (on P67), or the latest Z68 bioses.

BTW you can go with an Asus P8P board, but there are current known issues with EIST not being disabled properly, even at high performance setting (you can check the Asus bios thread on hardforum as there's alot of discussion about that, and people unable to stop EIST from kicking in with Unix...)
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thanks for the reply. normally i disable all of intels speedstep crap. eist c1e and anything else that might relate to it. the ud5 sounds like a solid board. the only ones i could find were kind of on the high side compared to the asus pro version of the p67 chipset offering. i will have to look further into that eist problem you mentioned. it sounds like it could be a bios type glitch. as for as the llc is concerned. is there not a hardware vdroop mod for either of these boards that anyone knows about. of course unlike a lot of people im not scared to overvolt my cpus. some say dont go over 1.25 on these sandy bridges but ive seen a lot that seem to be around the 1.4-1.5 volts. i can honestly say i would not be scared to pump 1.6 through em. i dont plan on keeping my cpu forever i run em till they die and then upgrade.

i was looking at the ripjaws. i saw a set that was 16000. any reason for suggestion the 12800 stuff. my logic is id have more head room to tighten the timings a little better one i reach the max oc on the cpu.

so far from what i have seen the z68 chipsets do not look like a better alternative and the only tri channle stuff i can find is all x58. so i guess a 2x4gb kit of rip jaws would be for the win.
    
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all Sandy Bridge is Dual Channel, Sandy Bridge - E "socket 2011" will be released in a few months will be Quad Channel.
Yeah you pay a little more for some things on the GA vs Asus, however I think GA has better quality and is VRD12 certified which I believe GA is the only company out there right now that has that certification on their boards.
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What does that cert mean
    
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