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Also they would wait for games to actually have a problem with the PS3 speed. They would also probably wait for the hype over next-gen consoles to really start up.
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Isn't it quite obvious that the PS4 (along with the new Xbox) has been in development ever since the current consoles came out? Perhaps even before?

This articles states the obvious.
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so at least now there's some hint from sony that ps4 is under development..

enter this link....



so do u think ps3 has still some juice left in it?

what do u guys xpect in ps4?

Source

They kind of have to get the PS4 out now, after what's happened. It's the only way they are going to keep/get more customers now. I hope for there sake it is actually better than the PS3 was (I mean as in the graphics are better than most PC's. Seeing as they weren't at PS3's launch) I hope they redesign the whole main interface (I forget what its called) Its okay but a bit boring.

I hope Sony aren't totally screwed and can get back on track soon.
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Full keyboard/mouse support. Android(or something akin to it) as a bootable operating environment. Enhanced marketplace/psn.
2GB system/video RAM(possibly 4GB but less likely)
Fermi based GPU, Power based CPU, but not cell.

marketed as a computer replacement + home theater system + gaming console.

2GB RAM? Probably MUCH more than that.

You guys need to realize that when the Xbox 360 and PS3 came out, they were using hardware that was as good as most PCs at the time, excluding some truly high-end computers like OCN members would be used to. This means that when these systems come out in 2012-2013 they will likely have 8GB of RAM or more. I would say a GPU equivalent to the power of a 6870 or 580 is probably likely.

What I'm more curious about is what will be different about this next-gen other than just faster hardware. Will they come with large HDDs, will they support mouse/keyboard, etc. As you mentioned above, something like Android support would be great, however, if they go the route of using a known operating system it might open the console up to being hacked much more quickly and easily. I will admit though, if Microsoft and Sony both released new hardware, and one had Android on it, or Windows, they'd have my money first.

Makes me think about the rumors of 360 games running on Windows 8. How sweet would it be if the next Microsoft console just came with a very stripped down version of Windows 8, and the games for it would also work on your Windows 8 PC? Would be great for game developers, and it would put Sony in a very tough position.
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2GB RAM? Probably MUCH more than that.

You guys need to realize that when the Xbox 360 and PS3 came out, they were using hardware that was as good as most PCs at the time, excluding some truly high-end computers like OCN members would be used to. This means that when these systems come out in 2012-2013 they will likely have 8GB of RAM or more. I would say a GPU equivalent to the power of a 6870 or 580 is probably likely.
Lol, keep dreaming.

It is truly remarkable that both systems run their OS's on 512mb of RAM and continue to play games on it as well.. pretty impressive.

They would only need 2GB of RAM to truly have no bottleneck, I see them including no more than 4GB, if they do I'll seriously give you $20. I'd say the GPU would be around a GTX470 in power when it releases.

You have to remember they will be releasing the consoles at probably $399.
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Incremental improvements, nothing more. The type of changes we saw from PS1 to PS2, i.e. more power; not like PS2 to PS3, e.g. new disc format, motion sensitive controller, etc.
I can understand why you say that but I disagree, I think they are going with a HUGE lessons learned this time, and pick an easier-to-design for platform that is more mainstream and less exotic. Something either simply x86 or maybe even ARM based quad CPU (possibly a heavily modified Tegra3.) Reality-wise? We may end up seeing another cell-processor, a revision that is faster, more instruction sets becomming of modern styles.

I am not sure about the main dedicated GPU, if it will be designed by nVidia, it will be more powerful, but more costly. The AMD/ATi combination is more likely, good price to performance ratio, so whoever gets the "exclusivity license" first from which ever company will probably force the other console manufacturer's hand.

Is it possible for a 3rd party GPU or even in-house? Absolutely, will they do it? Probably not. I reason this as its costly, complicated, and a non-mainstream device, requiring programmers to have an even more of a learning curve.

Things we can probably expect? Between 2-4GB of total system memory, leaning more to the 2GB side (especially if the OS is only 100-200 MB in system footprint.) There is simply no need for that much VRAM / System RAM on a console, but definitely 2GB~4GB can be used at proper 1920x1080 resolution with eye candy. If they do go with 4GB, I guarantee that it will be an extremely fast loading device, with tons of pre-caching, which I think would be in the best interest in a console as one of the biggest advantages a PC has over a console is load/cache time. Memory speed will most likely be GDDR5, nothing crazy. PS3 was known for its combo of XDR and GDDR5 I believe, and to put it frank, was a bit silly in hindsight. They could have really benefitted from it either all being available for the GPU or all of it being unified.

Blu-Ray support, true 1920x1080P definition with 3D if nVidia based, AND potentially upscale to 1200p, something new.

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And a realistic launch price. No more of thiat $600 crap.
Oh it will be 600$ or more at launch. That I have no doubt, I don't like it, but I don't doubt it.

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They will release the PS4 when the market timing is right, i.e. balancing when it is actually "ready", when they think it will generate the biggest "splash", and when they think they "must" release it to avoid being so late to the party that they lose market share, like last time around.
Which is code for: "BEFORE THE OTHER GUYS GET THEIRS OUT!" Hahah.

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And then the PS2 and PS3 will both be retired when they are no longer manking Sony more money than justifies the manufacture and sale of the product. I wouldn't be surprised if the margin on a PS2 is still greater than a PS3, given the maturity of the platform and the cheaper components involved. This seems silly, but I believe there is a chance that the PS2 could actually outlive the PS3.
I believe that would be the greatest compliment to a "gaming library" any console generation could have. Truly, this would define a console not by its horsepower, but its quality of its game library.
Edited by RagingCain - 5/27/11 at 6:32am
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It doesn't matter what the PS4 offers, I won't be buying it. This is coming from someone who owns the first three Playstations. I've found the PS3 to be very underwhelming (aside from Uncharted and Heavy Rain) and their online "service" also lags behind Xbox Live and 95% of PC gaming offerings.

I hope that the PS4 is impressive and pushes Microsoft and Nintendo to step up their game, but I'll be sitting out the next generation of Playstation.
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They are trying to cover their psn crap that is the only thing comes to my mind after all hapend to poor psn users.(don't say this has nothing to do with that ofc ps 4 will come out some time but it was too early too talk about it)
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Hopefully they will put in a good GPU this time. I don't think either Sony or MS will release their next console before the Wii2 though. They'll probably take the wait and see approach.
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Hopefully they will put in a good GPU this time. I don't think either Sony or MS will release their next console before the Wii2 though. They'll probably take the wait and see approach.
I don't think it's so much "wait and see" as "we're not ready yet." Nintendo was probably finalizing their plans for Project Cafe around the same time Sony and Microsoft were launching Kinect and Move.

Even if either of the two could launch their new consoles around the same time as Project Cafe, I doubt they would for fear of prematurely cannibalizing Xbox 360 and PS3 sales. PS3 in particular still has a stellar lineup going into mid-2012.

I imagine price drops at E3 for both, after which they'll enjoy a surge in sales for the next year or so before they unveil their new systems at E3 2012.
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