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I think the next generation of consoles is still a while off. The truth is, the largest developers - think Activision - are quite content to use only a portion of the PS3's real power anyway. Furthermore, gamers are very happy with the games coming out.

The other issue is that the incremental increases that have been realised in PC gaming include things like volumetric smoke, ray tracing, depth of field etc. All of these are wildly graphically intensive. I'm just not sure a console could effectively pull that kind of power off.
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The other issue is that the incremental increases that have been realised in PC gaming include things like volumetric smoke, ray tracing, depth of field etc. All of these are wildly graphically intensive. I'm just not sure a console could effectively pull that kind of power off.
Two thoughts on this:

1. This is actually one of the arguments for why a new console generation is probably due. The hardware in the current console gen is just so outdated that what should be "basic" effects in 2011 are difficult, if not impossible, to pull off because of the old hardware.

The devil's advocate counter-argument, however, is that incremental graphical improvements that do not actually improve the gameplay are unlikely to spur mass adoption of a brand new console that won't play the customers' existing games, especially if said console has a $500 (plus accessories like extra controllers etc.) launch price.

So even though I am on the record repeatedly as belittling the importance of backwards compatibility, I think it actually might be a good thing if the next generation is really just the incremental hardware improvement we are all expecting. Potential customers might view it as an upgrade, not a rip-and-replace. (Maybe.)

2. Responding to your last two sentences: If the kind of effects that they need to pull off are the ones that require $600 video cards that raises the temperature of your house by ten degrees, then I would argue that PCs should not be doing those effects either! (The argument being that one gamer in thousands actually buys those expensive cards, so it's a huge waste of developer time to spend significant effort using "all" of those cards' potential.)
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I'll put money that all the next generation of consoles will be even more fragmented than before.

You'll have your base system which will play games, then lots of extras (Kinect, Move, Connect24) and of course different levels of hardware, ones including large hard drives, flash memory and all the rest.

MS tried it on release with the 360, but Sony slammed the crap out of them by including pretty much everything. This time, both those two will aim the way of all these extras. Nintendo will do their own thing.
    
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Also they would wait for games to actually have a problem with the PS3 speed. They would also probably wait for the hype over next-gen consoles to really start up.
I have games lag on my ps3.
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I have games lag on my ps3.
Those are multiplat games that you're talking about, I'm assuming? Or is it the same case for exclusives?
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The PS3 only has a 7800GTX in it? :O Talk about optimized code and pushing the limit for the hardware. It sometimes makes me wonder why PC gamers can't get the same performance out of their 7800GTX?
    
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The PS3 only has a 7800GTX in it? :O Talk about optimized code and pushing the limit for the hardware. It sometimes makes me wonder why PC gamers can't get the same performance out of their 7800GTX?
Direct X is the reason why a 7800gtx's performance on a pc is gimped compared to the ps3.
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Direct X is the reason why a 7800gtx's performance on a pc is gimped compared to the ps3.
This. People here seem to loose sight of the fact that consoles operate much differently than PC. You cant just strait up compare Hardware between the two. Console = a different beast entirely
     
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So DirectX is the "bottleneck" on GPU hardware? To provide higher sales in video card hardware? I heard Microsoft also puts a bottleneck on CPU performance, in order to keep the CPU market in high demand? Same idea here?

And if it is just software which is holding them back, can't someone just unlock the full potential of the hardware? Or is it not that simple? Because the architecture itself on PC is built on the gimp?
    
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Lets not try to race Microsoft Sony, shall we??? Take your time with this one
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