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I told you all!

I posted about something like this happening months ago and you all laughed at me, called me an idiot for even thinking about it. So who's laughing now?
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So what happens when the integrated SSD fails? Is it going to be a hassle to replace? Is it under the same warranty as the motherboard? I see this as becoming a hassle given the increased potential failure rate of SSDs. They only have a certain amount of writes until they fail and this drive could potentially be written to a lot.

Nice idea but I think it's not the time for implementation, yet.
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I believe its SLC NAND which is the same type that they use for enterprise grade SSD's so this has a MUCH longer life than the standard consumer grade SSD's.
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So what happens when the integrated SSD fails? Is it going to be a hassle to replace? Is it under the same warranty as the motherboard? I see this as becoming a hassle given the increased potential failure rate of SSDs. They only have a certain amount of writes until they fail and this drive could potentially be written to a lot.

Nice idea but I think it's not the time for implementation, yet.
Replacements are readily available right now
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...e%20%28SATA%29
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SSD limited writes is a myth. If you wrote 100GB a day, 3 times a day it would take 85 years to wear out a 32GB SSD (that's with a 5 million cycle limit).
Edited by tw33k - 5/28/11 at 10:50am
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I believe its SLC NAND which is the same type that they use for enterprise grade SSD's so this has a MUCH longer life than the standard consumer grade SSD's.
If this is true then perhaps they will last longer.

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Replacements are readily available right now
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...e%20%28SATA%29
Those have a lower MTBF rating than my Agility 2 and are pretty slow by comparison.

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SSD limited writes is a myth. If you wrote 100GB a day, 3 times a day it would take 85 years to wear out a 32GB SSD.
Then explain the documented high failure rate of many SSDs after a year or so. Many perfectly good SSDs are just going belly up with no warning. I'll believe your statement (a little) in 10 years when most of our SSDs are still functioning.
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Not quite. All cache is just blanket term of storing some data on faster storage and closer to usablity. Cache can be done at different levels and to different mediums.

L1 Cache is hardware-controlled cache for the registers.

L2 Cache is hardware-controlled cache for the L1 Cache.

L3 Cache is hardware-controlled cache for the L2 Cache.

RAM is a hardware-controlled cache for the CPU.

SuperFetch is an OS-controlled cache to RAM.

ReadyBoost is an OS-controlled cache to NAND on hybrid drives. These are HDDs with a SSD onboard (only 1 by Samsung existed).

Seagate Momentus XT is another type of hybrid drive but run its cache stategy onboard so the OS is not even aware. This is a hardware-controlled cache to NAND.

Intel Smart Response Technology is a driver-controlled cache to NAND.

Adaptec Hybrid RAID is another driver-controlled cache to NAND.
S**t was so cache.
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If this is true then perhaps they will last longer.



Those have a lower MTBF rating than my Agility 2 and are pretty slow by comparison.



Then explain the documented high failure rate of many SSDs after a year or so. Many perfectly good SSDs are just going belly up with no warning. I'll believe your statement (a little) in 10 years when most of our SSDs are still functioning.
The failures have nothing to do with the number of write cycles. A simple Google search would show you, better than I could, that limited write cycles are a thing of the past and no longer is an issue with today's SSDs
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The failures have nothing to do with the number of write cycles. A simple Google search would show you, better than I could, that limited write cycles are a thing of the past and no longer is an issue with today's SSDs
Okay, see me in a year or two and we can compare how our drives are doing. You may very well be right (or rather the manufacturers may be right) but I am a skeptic. I don't think this magically disappeared or they wouldn't have all these optimizations to limit writes to the drive. They even tell you that formatting your drive will reduce the life of the drive.
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Okay, see me in a year or two and we can compare how our drives are doing. You may very well be right (or rather the manufacturers may be right) but I am a skeptic. I don't think this magically disappeared or they wouldn't have all these optimizations to limit writes to the drive. They even tell you that formatting your drive will reduce the life of the drive.
That little intel ssd drive is the last thing too fail. It's not the same thing as a desktop ssd it's purpose is for boards like the gigabyte,and the os doesn't install too it.Also I bought my vertex 2 the day it was released and has performed flawlessly since then.My boot times are as good as a year ago.
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