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I think the most amazing thing about all of this is that there is legitimate pro teams that are sponsored by EpicGear and their gear is anything but, wonder how those players would perform with real mice and not this trash.
    
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Oh god they made the software default to full screen

WITH AN INTRO MOVIE AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

YES all spielberg-like as well. You have to give them credit for at least imagining that their mouse is something "Special" doh.gif .

Waiting for Razer to do the same thing soon.
post #23 of 29
More like EpicFail.
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post #24 of 29
Broke out this mouse again.

There is a rather humorous bug. Laser and HDST mode have adjustable lift off distance in the software. Optical mode does not. So 3060(3080 srom) has a huge lod right?

Two sensors with differing lod. That work together. What could possibly go wrong?
post #25 of 29
Last sensor to track the surface is a rotten egg. Ready...go! redface.gif
post #26 of 29
Bingo.

Here's the patent filed for HDST that gives an overview of how it works: https://www.google.com/patents/EP2523074A2?cl=en&dq=inassignee:%22Golden+Emperor+International+Ltd.%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjIgJeru6rNAhXF1h4KHQjwDwsQ6AEIHTAD

There are 4 or 5 firmware versions that I am not able to acquire and try. Dead links. No one else hosted them, so they might as well be gone from the internet. Firmware 3.10 is actually 1.50. For some reason they tried to make it appear as a higher number? Whatever.

I still don't understand why the original firmware had the 3060 angle snapping on Dual Sensor Mode but 1.50 removed it. They played around with it a bit? The firmware can not be downgraded because....there's nothing to downgrade it to. I'd have to rebuy the mouse.

Using black tape to cover the sensor or situating the mouse so only one sensor is capable of tracking:

3060 covered/out of range = no tracking
A9500 covered/out of range= brief duration of tracking then nothing

So I tried this. I covered up the A9500 opening. Brief tracking then nothing. However, if I tapped the A9500 lens opening(black tape still covering it) and then quickly set the mouse down, I could get the 3060 to track movement for at most 3-4 seconds.

This quirk plays into the lod issue. LOD is never consistent and this causes the tracking to cut off depending on the scenario.

What were they thinking? This never had a chance.

They gave it another shot with the Anura. This time a A9800 sensor was situated above the 3060 sensor. Now add what might have been the original 9800's srom smoothing hell to the mix.... Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
AGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

This mouse is just a waste of time.
post #27 of 29
In theory, there are a bunch of cool things you could do with a pair of non-identical sensors...

One possibility is, if you're in a technological situation where you can get a sensor with very good tracking qualities, but a somewhat lacking max perfect control speed, and for whatever reason you can't obtain one with similar tracking qualities and a higher control speed-- maybe you can't afford it, maybe you can afford it but don't have the opportunity to obtain it, maybe you're working in a year when it just doesn't exist yet-- what you might do is pair your good sensor with a secondary sensor, the purpose of which is solely to give some tracking when the max speed of the main sensor is exceeded. Obviously this won't be as good as if your main sensor simply had a higher max PCS, and you'll need a flawless system to detect the appropriate speed range and execute the transition, but I could see it potentially yielding at least a decent approximation of a better single sensor than you can actually get, especially if your main sensor still has a high enough PCS on its own that you're only actually on the secondary for a tiny moment at the fastest portion of your fastest swipes. It's an interesting approach, enough so that Logitech tried it on the G402 with an accelerometer secondary to try and enable a cheaper main-- personally, I still can't help but dream occasionally about what you might create if you could get your hands on some MLT04s for your primary sensor and a contemporary top-of-the-line optical for your main...

Another possibility is, if your best overall sensor has very high LOD (true for many years), you could add a secondary for the sole purpose of detecting liftoff sooner without having to mess with any other characteristic. If you were trying to do the previous thing I described with an optical main and a laser secondary, your laser secondary could also perform this role. I suspect that EpicGear might have been trying to do both of these, and just royally ****ed up the implementation.
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post #28 of 29
Well yeah, also doesn't help that they had LaView contracted for the mouse.

Lowest price I could find the Anura was $76. Nope.
post #29 of 29
Didn't Logitech do this too back in the early 2000s with their "Dual Optical" mouse? Are there any reviews of that thing using modern benchmarks?
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