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I want to see if I can fit a server into my budget. Just so you know I have 0 experience with servers. What I am looking for in the server:

-music/pic mass storage
-music streaming
-storing completed school files/projects
-multiple computer backups

I dont really watch movies that much, so Im not worried about video streaming. Let me know if Im going in the right direction, here. Not going for high end, just reliable parts and cheap. I dont know what hdds to get.

(updated build)= $277
cpu: AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz
$61

mobo: BIOSTAR TA880GU3+ AM3 microATX
$75

ram: ADATA 4GB (2 x 2GB)
$42

psu: Antec EarthWatts Green 380W
$40

case: Antec 300
$60

hdd:?,

For drives, I guess I want 2 copies on separate drives, of everything in the nas. With the board Im looking at I have 6 sata ports. I want to have a mirrored raid setup, ideally. Im not sure what raid to use. If I use raid, will I need a raid card?

I do have access to a number of microsoft server os, through school. I have no idea about nas OS or which to use, though. freenas, I want to be able to fold on whatever os I use.
Edited by Mugen87 - 5/30/11 at 11:25pm
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Actually WHS v.1 will handle all those tasks perfectly. It even has a facility to auto-backup all your existing Windows PCs although I believe their are plugins to do this for Macs as well. Since WHS is just a re-branded server 2k3 I don't see why you couldn't fold on it as well (I've never tried folder at all never mind on 2k3 server).

WHS v.1 has the famous "drive expander" making hardware raid unnecessary (but not impossible).

FreeNAS (I recommend the latest v.7) has a lot of services that can be added it to it through the web interface including UPnP which I think will cover you on music streaming.

Amahi is a linux solution I have not yet tried but seems a highly regarded solution to this particular server forum...

If you did go hardware RAID I would recommend either RAID 5 or RAID 10.

The only reason I would recommend steering clear of an Atom board is the SATA controller performance. You would need to simply add a PCI card for that SATA stuff and depending on what you did and how often it would probably be fine... although obviously an atom for folding wouldn't work very well (only one PCI slot for atoms, which you would need for sata ports e.g. couldn't add a video card).
 
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post #3 of 25
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So I looked at the software I can download from school. I have access to ms server 2003 standard and enterprise. It would be free for me to download, if you think I should go for it. WHS isnt free so that is an issue.

I will stick with the mobo in the op, never mind the atom cpu. Any input on the other hardware choices?
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Get this PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...rthwatts%20380

It has plenty of power and it is very efficient. I run it in my server and it makes my whole server idle 20W lower because it is so efficient
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post #5 of 25
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Thanks I will go with that psu, even better with that price. Still dont know what to look at for hdd. Do I need to be looking into hot-swap bays?

So I am leaning to server 2k3 or freenas for my os, both are free for me. Im still not clear what I need in terms of OS, raid, music streaming, and folding.
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post #6 of 25
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So an update Im going dual core amd, 4gb ram, with 6x 1tb raid10, and the above mentioned antec psu.

Any hdd and raid card recomendations?
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Do you really need a RAID card? What are you going to be storing? If it's general media etc, then a RAID card probably isn't the best plan...
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Ya general media. As long as you think the mobo can handle the raid. I will need a boot drive for the os, this leaves me with 5 on board sata connectors. So my array will be 4x 1.5tb, sounds good.
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post #9 of 25
I didn't mean go onboard (which I wouldn't recommend if you're looking at RAID5 especially).

I meant don't use RAID. For low drive counts, folder duplication (as done by WHS v1 and Amahi etc) makes more sense. For larger drive counts UnRAID etc (parity protected non-striped arrays) are more sensible than striped RAID arrays for media storage.
post #10 of 25
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So what do I need to run the hard drives under server 2k3?

How does this drive look for a boot, Can I use a laptop hd for the boot drive if it will save power. Then use this drive for the storage.

The total as of now is $277, this is without the drives. If I can get it $500 with drives that would be perfect. I updated the op to show changes to the build.
Edited by Mugen87 - 5/30/11 at 11:35pm
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